OC Campbell to be announced soon
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eveningnewsteam
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Yes because we all know post count has a lot to do with credibility
DuffMan
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I luled
83Hawk
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Kirk would never hire an outsider for DC or OC....too risky.
Expect more of the same on offense...boring, predictable, no 2 minute drill, saving timeouts, punting from the opponent's 32 yard line, playing for OT instead of the win, etc. etc. etc.
Kirk bunted on the DC hire...he's going to bunt on this one too.
hawkjunkie
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How is it too risky to hire an outsider for the OC? Is it not much more risky to hire someone that has never called an offensive play in a game?? Or maybe worse, hire a close colleague who only ran a spread offense in his previous experience? Ok, let's not talk about the latter, no need to go there...
As for the DC, we run an assignment base defense, there is not a lot of variation in that at all. It is far less risky to hire a DC with no experience, than it is an OC with no experience, regardless of the schemes that are ran.
GhostofBTT
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Originally Posted by Hawkfromnorwalk
OC is actually the hire I want to stay internal. Soup has earned the chance.
Why is this the hire you want to stay internal? What motivates you to want an unproven OC coach, who has NEVER called an offensive play in a game???
I am sure he figured out how to call plays in the last 15 years.
jsmith337
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Spill it dude, we all know you've heard something
hawkjunkie
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I can call a play. That does not mean I would be any good at play calling. Maybe I would kickass? Maybe not. Eric or Erik can call a play, but that does not mean they can get the play in on time, that does not mean they won't run the same moronic play again and again, that does not mean they won't call a horrible redzone offense, and it does not mean that they do not have incredibly poor clock management. I would hope that they are none of those, but we have obviously seen these and other bad OC traits before...
That make me think of something, I wonder if the last OC showed the same traits in his previous OC job. One would have to assume so, right? I mean, it is not like he got hit in the head one day and all of sudden had all of these horrible issues with calling an offense...
OUTofTOWNHAWK
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hogeye
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The fact that you don't know this already speaks volumes.
hawkjunkie
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Speaks volumes about KF, you mean? Of course I had no idea how KOK did as an OC in his previous job, other than some basic stats and a W/L record. Like the rest of us, I only knew he ran a spread offense. I had no idea how his in-game management skills were...
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Calculator
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Thaaaats Right!
hogeye
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KOK embodies the type of hire that you're defending in this debate. Your berating him and his tenure at Iowa, right or wrong as it may be, is contradictory to the emphasis you're trying to make about just how damn important it is we not hire from within.
So by your own logic, and inability to realize retrospectively that KOK embodied the type of hire you're so desperate to defend, I can make the case that hiring from within may be the best way to hedge against the problem again.
I got it, Soup as the OC/WR, Moore as OCA/QB, BF Oline.
In 7 years KF retires, Soup becomes HC, BF moves to OC under Soup (age53). Soup Retires at 65, BF becomes HC at 48. We are set for another 15+ years after that. We would be setting ourselves up for the next 35 years of, in Charle Sheens words, "WINNING".
In 7 years KF retires, Soup becomes HC, BF moves to OC under Soup (age53). Soup Retires at 65, BF becomes HC at 48. We are set for another 15+ years after that. We would be setting ourselves up for the next 35 years of, in Charle Sheens words, "WINNING".
CFHawk
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I got it, Soup as the OC/WR, Moore as OCA/QB, BF Oline.
In 7 years KF retires, Soup becomes HC, BF moves to OC under Soup (age53). Soup Retires at 65, BF becomes HC at 48. We are set for another 15+ years after that. We would be setting ourselves up for the next 35 years of, in Charle Sheens words, "WINNING".
And I'll be 87 by then and won't care.
WinOneThisCentury
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Ahhh, maybe Soup should work on getting his receivers to catch the ball. I know he can't catch it for them, but to lead the Big Ten in drops isn't something to aspire to as a receivers coach. I'm not sure that track record gets you an OC job at the same school. If you ask me, this was a major factor in our mediocrity against good defenses last year. We had chance to keep drives going and keep the ball longer to wear teams down and put points on the board...instead the drops were like turnovers. That what a drops is akin to...maybe you don't give up the field position like a normal turnover, but you still hand the ball back to the other team...they are somehow underrated by the avg. fan of the game.
Have we been putting WR's in the NFL at a brisk pace?
Have we been putting WR's in the NFL at a brisk pace?
I'm so tired of mediocre football, I don't care now.
twinhawkfans
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ICHawk24
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For some reason, this board is obsessed with Campbell for I don't know what reason. DJK and McNutt isn't a long list of success.
This same board HATES Phil Parker, who has simply turned out more NFL players from less talent than any position coach on the team.
PatrickAdamovicz
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Maybe because under the watchful eye of Campbell both DJK and McNutt set the standard for Iowa receivers. Both were also QB's in high school. All Campbell did was parlay them into 2 of the best receivers Iowa has ever saw. Both broke all the receiving records.
