OC Campbell to be announced soon

PatrickAdamovicz said:
Maybe because under the watchful eye of Campbell both DJK and McNutt set the standard for Iowa receivers. Both were also QB's in high school. All Campbell did was parlay them into 2 of the best receivers Iowa has ever saw. Both broke all the receiving records.
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He showed up during DJK's 3rd year in the program. DJK, the guy who Herbstreit proclaimed as the #1 player out of Ohio as a senior. I think it'd be a stretch to credit Campbell with DJK. Unless you want to credit him for the drug house that everyone likes talking about.

McNutt is a good player. If you want to credit Campbell with him, fine. Didn't McNutt lead the Big Ten in drops?

So he produced two players, only one of which will make the League. And guys like Sandeman and many others were disappointments.

Parker has sent a RIDICULOUS amount of players to the NFL. Off the top of my head, these relatively low recruits have become NFL starters: Sanders, Considine, Pagel, Spievey, Godfrey. And quite a few others have made the league. He has been a key mind in developing a defense that has spent the last decade in the top 20 in the country. Yet somehow this board thinks he is a terrible hire.
 
To clarify, I think Campbell would be a fine hire. I think its kind of silly that fans think they know what goes on within a program, so I trust Kirk's judgement.

But Parker has a much better resume, if you are going by the fan point of view. I wish the fans here would be more optimistic about it.
 
Billso said:
No one should ever be hired for OC unless they've been an OC before.
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^This should totally be the case. A large, profitable corporation is not going to hire a VP of Operations who has never been a head of operations with a proven track record.

Unless Soup has knocked one out of the park in an interview stating how he would call plays or unless KF just wants to take a chance then you would think KF is going to hire someone with a proven track record of being at least a good OC.

KF left Fry to establish that he could be a head coach. A lot of coaches leave a program to be OC at a small college to get that track record started. I hope KF finds the right guy to add a little pizzaz.
 
WinOneThisCentury said:
Ahhh, maybe Soup should work on getting his receivers to catch the ball. I know he can't catch it for them, but to lead the Big Ten in drops isn't something to aspire to as a receivers coach. I'm not sure that track record gets you an OC job at the same school. If you ask me, this was a major factor in our mediocrity against good defenses last year. We had chance to keep drives going and keep the ball longer to wear teams down and put points on the board...instead the drops were like turnovers. That what a drops is akin to...maybe you don't give up the field position like a normal turnover, but you still hand the ball back to the other team...they are somehow underrated by the avg. fan of the game.

Have we been putting WR's in the NFL at a brisk pace?
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Winner.
 
ICHawk24 said:
He showed up during DJK's 3rd year in the program. DJK, the guy who Herbstreit proclaimed as the #1 player out of Ohio as a senior. I think it'd be a stretch to credit Campbell with DJK. Unless you want to credit him for the drug house that everyone likes talking about.

McNutt is a good player. If you want to credit Campbell with him, fine. Didn't McNutt lead the Big Ten in drops?

So he produced two players, only one of which will make the League. And guys like Sandeman and many others were disappointments.

Parker has sent a RIDICULOUS amount of players to the NFL. Off the top of my head, these relatively low recruits have become NFL starters: Sanders, Considine, Pagel, Spievey, Godfrey. And quite a few others have made the league. He has been a key mind in developing a defense that has spent the last decade in the top 20 in the country. Yet somehow this board thinks he is a terrible hire.
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How many pro WR's has Campbell developed at Michigan? Probably a bunch,as I recall. He recruited and developed many of them as a matter of fact. The NFL is littered with Michigan WR's.
 
JHHawk said:
How many pro WR's has Campbell developed at Michigan? Probably a bunch,as I recall. He recruited and developed many of them as a matter of fact. The NFL is littered with Michigan WR's.
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Campbell does have that on his resume, but those were pretty much all highly rated recruits.
 
ICHawk24 said:
Campbell does have that on his resume, but those were pretty much all highly rated recruits.
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I'm not sure that I understand the point. When the coach had good players (at Michigan), they went to the NFL. Here at Iowa, where we rarely get great "skill position" players he has not had as much success as he had at Michigan. Still, at the college level, and for Iowa standards, he has done well. Pretty much all of our NFL players are non "skill position" guys. The good ones don't go to Iowa (but rarely).
 
Unfortunately you have to measure a skill position coach by what happens on the field within his area of influence. In 2011, I wouldn't say, outside of McNutt that we saw guys grow by leaps and bounds. We led the B10 in drops. You can't have that...and frankly I just don't understand it. These are college receivers...who practice hours at their craft and they can't consistently do under pressure what is expected of them? It was truly pathetic. Honestly, good high school teams don't have that many drops in a season...and I'm being serious.

One of the things that impresses me about good receivers is what they do after they catch the ball. Once again, outside of Marvin, I always think our other receivers are looking for a place to go down...not maximize yards after catch...or take it to the house. Is this a factor of the talent we are getting? Or Coaching. To me it boils down to confidence and will to make it happen. That's coaching to a certain degree.
 
hogeye said:
KOK embodies the type of hire that you're defending in this debate. Your berating him and his tenure at Iowa, right or wrong as it may be, is contradictory to the emphasis you're trying to make about just how damn important it is we not hire from within.

So by your own logic, and inability to realize retrospectively that KOK embodied the type of hire you're so desperate to defend, I can make the case that hiring from within may be the best way to hedge against the problem again.
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Holy Christ no. KOK's experience at OC with Allegheny amounted to peanuts. Allegheny would not finish in the top 10 in Texas HIGH SCHOOL football. That experience is not what I would ever want as the main consideration for a B1G offensive coordinator. Nor should it. Not at Iowa. The experience that KOK got from Allegheny would be analogous with hiring the Valley High School HC as the Iowa OC. Literally.

I want someone with proven experience at the D1 level, or higher. Not some school with probably less than a couple thousand students at the DIII level. Or is Allegheny NAIA?
 
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