Next Iowa Coach?

[oldhawk12]

Um...because frans likely to retire after they're gone? He will be in his mid 60s. Unless he wants to coach their youngest son too, but his contract will be running out by then

Umm. He’ll be fired long before then

 

[lightning1]

Do your homework on that McJunkins before commenting....that POS is a fricken glory, power trippin dude like Eddie and Teddy Valentine. No racial profiling but certainly the shoe fits....

Well, if you know that, then it stands to reason that Fran knows that. Which means nothing that McJunkins does should surprise Fran enough to get that sort of reaction. If you know a ref is as awful as you say, there should be nothing you aren't mentally prepared to deal with, as a coach. What sort of unhinged person allows a bad ref to get them, when they already know how bad he is????
I know this first hand, as I have had to approach AAU officiating the same way.

 

[ArvadaHawk]

Ross Perot

that giant sucking sound you hear...

 

[ArvadaHawk]

Well, if you know that, then it stands to reason that Fran knows that. Which means nothing that McJunkins does should surprise Fran enough to get that sort of reaction. If you know a ref is as awful as you say, there should be nothing you aren't mentally prepared to deal with, as a coach. What sort of unhinged person allows a bad ref to get them, when they already know how bad he is????
I know this first hand, as I have had to approach AAU officiating the same way.

not excusing fran's actions cuz they were wrong. but, if mcjunkin is that bad (and i have seen a couple of games he officiated prior to the iowa game where both teams coaches and players were yelling and screaming at him) and if fran knows it, then shouldn't the B1G also know it and do something about it? again, not excusing fran's actions, but the B1G needs to fix it and rid itself of these horrible refs. they can impact standings and conf seedings. that shouldn't be the case.

 

[lightning1]

not excusing fran's actions cuz they were wrong. but, if mcjunkin is that bad (and i have seen a couple of games he officiated prior to the iowa game where both teams coaches and players were yelling and screaming at him) and if fran knows it, then shouldn't the B1G also know it and do something about it? again, not excusing fran's actions, but the B1G needs to fix it and rid itself of these horrible refs. they can impact standings and conf seedings. that shouldn't be the case.

As a coach, you don't worry about things you can't control. Like the officials. You don't lose your cool to the point of being suspended by your league or your AD. That is 100% on Fran and it's 100% within his ability to control. And this is the 2nd time that he has not shown that ability.

 

[Northside Hawk]

My concern, especially when he has two of his own kids playing, is that he will throw a punch at an official and that will be the end, not to mention that he will be arrested. If McJunkins T's anybody other than Connor, I'm convinced that Fran doesn't chase him down the tunnel. In Fran's mind it was like any vendetta between coach and official was now extending to the coaches son. You can also make an argument that McJunkins wouldn't have T'd up any other player on the team as quickly. I think that's more than reasonable to assume.

Now he's going to have Connor and Patrick. And Connor has already shown a petulant side when he doesn't get a call. And Fran has shown how overprotective he can be of his own.

 

[ArvadaHawk]

I'm not happy with Fran but with his extension last year and buyout he's not going anywhere for at least 2 years.

You can thank Gary "The Teflon Man" Barta for that.

As a coach, you don't worry about things you can't control. Like the officials. You don't lose your cool to the point of being suspended by your league or your AD. That is 100% on Fran and it's 100% within his ability to control. And this is the 2nd time that he has not shown that ability.

friend, review my post. how many times did i say "i'm not excusing fran's actions"?

the point i made in my post is that the B1G has a responsibility to get rid of horseshit refs because THEY can and have an impact on the standings/seedings. i saw two games prior to iowa @ osu where both teams/coaches were screaming at that fools calls. so, that's 4 coaches and 4 teams in games immediately prior to @osu.

i hope my point is clearer, now.

 

[Cableman]

My concern, especially when he has two of his own kids playing, is that he will throw a punch at an official and that will be the end, not to mention that he will be arrested. If McJunkins T's anybody other than Connor, I'm convinced that Fran doesn't chase him down the tunnel. In Fran's mind it was like any vendetta between coach and official was now extending to the coaches son. You can also make an argument that McJunkins wouldn't have T'd up any other player on the team as quickly. I think that's more than reasonable to assume.

Now he's going to have Connor and Patrick. And Connor has already shown a petulant side when he doesn't get a call. And Fran has shown how overprotective he can be of his own.

This seems to be a pretty big stretch

 

[lightning1]

friend, review my post. how many times did i say "i'm not excusing fran's actions"?

the point i made in my post is that the B1G has a responsibility to get rid of horseshit refs because THEY can and have an impact on the standings/seedings. i saw two games prior to iowa @ osu where both teams/coaches were screaming at that fools calls. so, that's 4 coaches and 4 teams in games immediately prior to @osu.

i hope my point is clearer, now.

Have you ever head the expression "everything before the word "but" is complete bull shit" ?
ArvadaHawk said: ↑
not excusing fran's actions cuz they were wrong. but, if mcjunkin is that bad (and i have seen a couple of games he officiated prior to the iowa game where both teams coaches and players were yelling and screaming at him) and if fran knows it, then shouldn't the B1G also know it and do something about it? again, not excusing fran's actions, but the B1G needs to fix it and rid itself of these horrible refs. they can impact standings and conf seedings. that shouldn't be the case.

 

[trj]

This exercise is futile. Barring a major scandal Fran isn’t going anywhere.

 

[Adam]

correct - Iowa is not going to fire a 21 win coach, they just aren't. That's just not gonna happen likely anywhere. But I am starting to understand the other side of the story more every day. What is happening this season is complete and udder bullshit.

Umm....UCLA and Indiana say hi there.

 

[Northside Hawk]

This seems to be a pretty big stretch

I saw him at one of Patrick's games this winter. He was sitting three rows in front of me. He could easily have been T'd by any of the refs that night. From the bleachers.

It was be interesting to watch Mc Junkins do his job the next time he and Fran cross paths. And see how the calls are made.

 

[oldhawk12]

My concern, especially when he has two of his own kids playing, is that he will throw a punch at an official and that will be the end, not to mention that he will be arrested. If McJunkins T's anybody other than Connor, I'm convinced that Fran doesn't chase him down the tunnel. In Fran's mind it was like any vendetta between coach and official was now extending to the coaches son. You can also make an argument that McJunkins wouldn't have T'd up any other player on the team as quickly. I think that's more than reasonable to assume.

Now he's going to have Connor and Patrick. And Connor has already shown a petulant side when he doesn't get a call. And Fran has shown how overprotective he can be of his own.

I brought this up three yrs ago when the writing was on the wall with red face and his anger issues and the inevitable “ferentz family plan” that was coming. Youth and aau tourneys had seen this act for yrs so this comes as no surprise. Adding another family member with more losses will only make it worse. An AD worth his stripes would have read this coming yrs ago but just like with lifetime ferentz, gary doubled down on fran. If he waits to move on red face until after jr enrolls then he’ll have one of the bigger messes on his hands during his tenure and that’s saying something.

 

[oldhawk12]

This exercise is futile. Barring a major scandal Fran isn’t going anywhere.

Programs that really care about winning- this is what you do. You don’t settle, think you can’t do any better or wait until the contract expires. You make the move and demand excellence. We already have one major program on cruise control and this one is less than that.

 

[hawkdrummer1]

20 wins is the most overrated stat in college basketball. Who you beat is what matters. Give me b10 titles and sweet 16 runs. This coach hasn’t come close to either

Yep. It's the rough equivalent of 7-5 in football. Beat your lesser non cons and go .500ish in conference.

 

[Northside Hawk]

I brought this up three yrs ago when the writing was on the wall with red face and his anger issues and the inevitable “ferentz family plan” that was coming. Youth and aau tourneys had seen this act for yrs so this comes as no surprise. Adding another family member with more losses will only make it worse. An AD worth his stripes would have read this coming yrs ago but just like with lifetime ferentz, gary doubled down on fran. If he waits to move on red face until after jr enrolls then he’ll have one of the bigger messes on his hands during his tenure and that’s saying something.

He caused a scene a JustAGame in the Dells when he was asked to run the scoreboard. It's standard at most youth and some AAU tournaments for a parent from one team to run the book and one from the other team to run the scoreboard. He pretended to not know how to run it, got pissed, and stalked off. Over running a scoreboard. The story has become the stuff of legend in the state of Wisconsin.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

Well, if you know that, then it stands to reason that Fran knows that. Which means nothing that McJunkins does should surprise Fran enough to get that sort of reaction. If you know a ref is as awful as you say, there should be nothing you aren't mentally prepared to deal with, as a coach. What sort of unhinged person allows a bad ref to get them, when they already know how bad he is????
I know this first hand, as I have had to approach AAU officiating the same way.

It would have been one thing if we lost late on an egregious call. But...we lost by 20?! And when there WAS still a chance to make a comeback, first Connor, then Fran, cost us with a "T". It's like he doubled-down on the initial tantrum thinking it would change the result of a 20-point loss. Absolute lunacy.

 

[Adam]

Interesting thread. I understand people being upset Fran got himself suspended 2 games.

But I noticed something the last 2 games. This team sucks without Fran on the sideline during a game. I realize many like to complain about every last thing he does during a game. But for as bad of a game coach as he is we sure look better when he’s the guy coaching the game IMO.

Good then you fell for the ruse. How convenient that our embattled coach gets suspended for 2 games and the team looks like hot garbage in his absence. It is pure coincidence that it happened at the peak of Iowa fans becoming venomous towards Fran. Also pure coincidence that last time Fran was suspended the team looked just fine and won without him. Smoke and mirrors baby.

 

[Hawkeyes5]

You want to compare AAU to Division 1 officiating?
Wow. Listen up and listen good..if you don't think officials arent on the lamb...you are as ignorant as you look.

Well, if you know that, then it stands to reason that Fran knows that. Which means nothing that McJunkins does should surprise Fran enough to get that sort of reaction. If you know a ref is as awful as you say, there should be nothing you aren't mentally prepared to deal with, as a coach. What sort of unhinged person allows a bad ref to get them, when they already know how bad he is????
I know this first hand, as I have had to approach AAU officiating the same way.

 

[trj]

Programs that really care about winning- this is what you do. You don’t settle, think you can’t do any better or wait until the contract expires. You make the move and demand excellence. We already have one major program on cruise control and this one is less than that.

What's up with Hilton magic?