New Depth Chart - "Or" at QB

[HaydenHawk56]

Seriously, not giving Padilla or hell, Joey a start after the performance of Petras and his two throws where he forgot whose team he was on would be criminal.....what more is there to say? Padilla only had one T/O that was his (well mostly) fault. That was the fumble. Padilla scrambling saved a lot of lost yardage. OSU were pinning back their ears and coming. I still think he gives Iowa the best chance of winning. Honestly just don't take big sacks or negative yardage, kick field goals, and don't turn the ball over and this D will do the rest. A mobile QB that isn't forced to stand in the pocket would do a world of wonder for this porous offensive line.

or run that fucking, stupid, moronic, dumb, unintelligent, feeble minded reverse play.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

As it should be. As a fan I’d love to see them give more attention to the two deeps, but a widely inaccurate chart isn’t exactly new to this program. The coaches have rightly determined that G. Williams is the third best RB on the team, and have reduced his workload to compensate. Sure would be nice if they could do that with QB.

It's too bad about G Wiliams too He can't seem to stop putting the ball on the ground. Woulda been nice for a kid like him from central Iowa develop himself into a bell cow type of back but he's pretty much blown his opportunity. He's a 3rd down guy and that's it. He might even lose that gig if he keeps fumbling

 

[MelroseHawkins]

Can anyone explain why they are running Colby back out there at RT? He got beat so many times in that first quarter they moved him to guard and then to the bench. RT has been a revolving door of shit since Wirfs left.

I don't like to name players and try not to, but, from what I have been seeing and thinking watching this year, that RT position is a hot mess. I just don't think he has the lateral foot quickness to keep the guys in front of him.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

or run that fucking, stupid, moronic, dumb, unintelligent, feeble minded reverse play.

I'm so sick of some of the behind the LOS plays we try to run... I mean just QB sneak. Why get cute? The lack of self awareness by this staff for what we are working with is nuts. That was as bad of a play call as he's made in awhile and that's saying something.

 

[HaydenHawk56]

I'm so sick of some of the behind the LOS plays we try to run... I mean just QB sneak. Why get cute? The lack of self awareness by this staff for what we are working with is nuts. That was as bad of a play call as he's made in awhile and that's saying something.

This totally agree. Totally.

I mean....preaching to the choir here of course....you are right....with what we have.....we can't block well, we are slow....why run a slow-developing reverse play when, like you say, we could just sneak it and get that yard or two we need?

It is maddening.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

Why does it matter what they’re listed on the depth chart? We know it’s going to be a committee of roughly 40% LW, 40% KJ, and 20% GW.

I agree it doesn't matter that much, but send a message. You can't play this badly and keep your starting position.

More importantly, given that we know our RT, whoever it is, sucks, how about not leaving them 1-1? If any passing play is called without a TE next to the RT to chip, BF is committing football malpractice. Oh wait.....

 

[Hawkfnntn]

This totally agree. Totally.

I mean....preaching to the choir here of course....you are right....with what we have.....we can't block well, we are slow....why run a slow-developing reverse play when, like you say, we could just sneak it and get that yard or two we need?

It is maddening.

Yeah I mean what has the better chance of working? Those guys have a better chance flying off the ball and gaining a yard on a qb sneak then any kind of slow developing play that requires holding blocks. Hell we used to do it. That's what's even nuttier. Stanley did it pretty often. Petras isn't built a whole lot different. There's literally no angle or logical reason to not use that more on short yardage situations. And if it doesn't work then so what? I won't 2nd guess the call. But the crap they try calling so often is beyond madding. I'm with ya

 

[Fryowa]

More importantly, given that we know our RT, whoever it is, sucks, how about not leaving them 1-1? If any passing play is called without a TE next to the RT to chip, BF is committing football malpractice. Oh wait.....

Anytime you double up on a d-lineman you're creating another hole somewhere else. If you double up on a d-lineman consistently as part of your overall scheme, you're committing suicide.

Turning a TE into a strict O-Lineman just frees up a backer or safety, which takes away your intermediate pass game and forces you to run. Again, it limits your scheme which P5 defensive coordinators would eat you alive doing that. In Iowa's case it's even worse because teams are putting 8 guys in the box and blitzing half of them. Adding a TE to help block is like trying to stop Niagra Falls with some sandbags and duct tape.

What it boils down to is at lower levels of football you can compromise positions to help out weak areas. Like in high school you'd probably be able to get away with giving up a TE, etc., but at the B1G level there's just no way to be successful without being solid everywhere.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

Anytime you double up on a d-lineman you're creating another hole somewhere else. If you double up on a d-lineman consistently as part of your overall scheme, you're committing suicide.

Turning a TE into a strict O-Lineman just frees up a backer or safety, which takes away your intermediate pass game and forces you to run. Again, it limits your scheme which P5 defensive coordinators would eat you alive doing that. In Iowa's case it's even worse because teams are putting 8 guys in the box and blitzing half of them. Adding a TE to help block is like trying to stop Niagra Falls with some sandbags and duct tape.

What it boils down to is at lower levels of football you can compromise positions to help out weak areas. Like in high school you'd probably be able to get away with giving up a TE, etc., but at the B1G level there's just no way to be successful without being solid everywhere.

I understand. Sort of. I didn't say to leave the TE to block as a 6th linemen, but the TE can give a chip on his way through his pattern to slow down the DE and give the RT a bit of help. After watching Michigan, OSU and others just manhandle the RT, we need to do something. Frankly, I would rather dedicate a RB or TE to block even if we only send 3 out into the pattern. I would rather have an incompletion because no one is open rather than watch Petras get blown up because the RT gets beat again 1-1.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

Anytime you double up on a d-lineman you're creating another hole somewhere else. If you double up on a d-lineman consistently as part of your overall scheme, you're committing suicide.

Turning a TE into a strict O-Lineman just frees up a backer or safety, which takes away your intermediate pass game and forces you to run. Again, it limits your scheme which P5 defensive coordinators would eat you alive doing that. In Iowa's case it's even worse because teams are putting 8 guys in the box and blitzing half of them. Adding a TE to help block is like trying to stop Niagra Falls with some sandbags and duct tape.

What it boils down to is at lower levels of football you can compromise positions to help out weak areas. Like in high school you'd probably be able to get away with giving up a TE, etc., but at the B1G level there's just no way to be successful without being solid everywhere.

These coaches have full time jobs. Some actually do them and scout and note weaknesses & tendencies of others so they can go at them. I can't say that Iowa's offense does any such things but I'm sure the good teams do.

 

[Fryowa]

These coaches have full time jobs. Some actually do them and scout and note weaknesses & tendencies of others so they can go at them. I can't say that Iowa's offense does any such things but I'm sure the good teams do.

I'm admittedly a huge dummy, but if I'm playing Iowa I don't see a downside to whipping up a 3-4 front, playing man against our 2 wideouts (zero threat), leave a "cash" guy on Iowa's slot, and blitz the cash/S/M/W, EVERY PLAY.

That leaves 2 safeties in case of a blown coverage or a TE set.

With Iowa's QB and OL issues, what's the downside?

 

[okeefe4prez]

I sat next to the parents of Iowa’s last targeted QB at an away game. They barely said a word. Thank goodness the area was predominately populated by other parents. I think we won. Can’t imagine SP’s parents‘ state of mind.

I sat by Trevor Siemian's parents at a Northwestern game. They were super cool and asked everyone around if they wanted to get selfies with anyone on the team. Trevor is now in the NFL, albeit as a lowly backup, which is best job in the world. The solution to ease these parents worries is simple: recruit and sign quarterbacks who are good enough to play in the NFL and morph the offense to fit their strengths and hide their weaknesses.

 

[trj]

I agree it doesn't matter that much, but send a message. You can't play this badly and keep your starting position.

More importantly, given that we know our RT, whoever it is, sucks, how about not leaving them 1-1? If any passing play is called without a TE next to the RT to chip, BF is committing football malpractice. Oh wait.....

Did you not watch the Greg Davis offense? His offense often left both tackles on a island, by themselves, only to watch CJ Bethard get tee'd off on.

 

[trj]

I sat by Trevor Siemian's parents at a Northwestern game. They were super cool and asked everyone around if they wanted to get selfies with anyone on the team. Trevor is now in the NFL, albeit as a lowly backup, which is best job in the world. The solution to ease these parents worries is simple: recruit and sign quarterbacks who are good enough to play in the NFL and morph the offense to fit their strengths and hide their weaknesses.

So you are saying a healthy Micheal Penix or a Cameron Ward would have actually worked?

 

[okeefe4prez]

Did you not watch the Greg Davis offense? His offense often left both tackles on a island, by themselves, only to watch CJ Bethard get tee'd off on.

That beating CJ took against Florida was one for the ages.