theboat
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Klug is an undersized DT and he has twice as many sacks.
My point is that if someone (OP) wants to say that Nebby has more NFL talent on D than the Hawks (not 1990's and before), then it is just plain silly.
new DC should be from Nebraska's staff
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Klug is an undersized DT and he has twice as many sacks.
My point is that if someone (OP) wants to say that Nebby has more NFL talent on D than the Hawks (not 1990's and before), then it is just plain silly.
So less, what is your point? You come on here and spew this crap and you call yourself a life long Hawk fan. Why don't you spend your time on the Husker board where you can give everyone a hardon for how good NU's defense is. You have been a fan since Evy, Really? You do fit the discription of a TROLL and I don't think you will convince anyone on this board that you are not. You obviously don't understand Parkers defense or you would understand why he lets medium range pass' go. We gave up some staunch players to the NFL last year and they have all seen playing time or have started if they weren't injured. The veteran Hawks that play on sunday are some of the best in the league and how many other teams boast the numbers that the Hawks put up week in and week out. Go back to Lincoln. Your not really wanted here.
HomerChampless
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Ultimately, RADMAN, this is my point. When you love someone, as it appears you love Norm Parker, you have blinders on to his faults.
I love Iowa football...
EDIT: I don't love Parker, or Ferentz, or KOK.
And Boat, don't 'put words into my mouth'.
I'm not saying Nebby has more NFL talent than Iowa, I'm saying Nebby's coaches get more out of their NFL talent than Iowa.
I love Iowa football...
EDIT: I don't love Parker, or Ferentz, or KOK.
And Boat, don't 'put words into my mouth'.
I'm not saying Nebby has more NFL talent than Iowa, I'm saying Nebby's coaches get more out of their NFL talent than Iowa.
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GoHawks24
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If you knew anything about Iowa football, then you would know that it has been the DEFENSE that has carried Iowa the overwhelming majority of the time since Kirk has been at Iowa. Some people really need to get a clue. It seems like the level of intelligence on this board gets lower and lower with each passing week.
HomerChampless
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I can't win when I point out flaws with Parker's defense to those who have stars in their eyes for Parker. The real question is: what makes Iowa football better?
GoHawks24
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I can't win when I try to fix stupid.
cmhawks99
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Here is why……..Nebbie this year gave up…..
29pts to Fresno St……who scored more than 29 points a whole 4 other times.
38 pints to Washington, who scored 38 plus another whopping 4 times against some real bad teams.
48 against Wiscy…..
28 against NW…we gave up 31
27 to an exceptionally limited tOSU who scored 27 plus...you guessed it, only 4 other times.
45 against UM, we gave up 16…..
Honestly I’m not trying to pick on your here, but I’m ecstatic you brought this up. THIS is exactly the kind of thing I tell people all time. Have some perceptive. The things people think they see or that they think are supposedly good…….break down with a little; perspective and knowledge about what is really going on out there.
Chad
PS......oopps tOSU did scored 27 against Toledo too.....insert big smile here.
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cmhawks99
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If Carl's D had another year like this last one, his fans would be saying the same crap you are, in fact they probably did anyway.
For the record Nebbie’ scoring D was 22.8….
Iowa’s you ask…..23.3 against pretty much the same competition….
It’s called perspective, get some. I’m not sure whether a person should be more baffled by the lack of objectivity and insight or the blatant disregard to looking up the stats to make sure they aren’t all wet…!??!
Chad
MoseSchrute
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Nah, I bet your guys had better recruiting ratings than ours did.
HomerChampless
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Hey Chad, it seems you're sayin' Nebby's coaches can't get any more out of their NFL talent than Iowa's coaches can? Hum?
Still, nothing to 'crow' about with Iowa's D...
There's one thing Nebby's D has over Iowa's D, and it's the main reason I'd want a Carl Pelini staffer rather than a Norm Parker staffer for DC:
Pass defense. Nebby has an effective pass defense - not that bend and also break stuff.
I'm sorry I buried this. It should have been in the OP.
That 'Iowa's coaches can't get a lot out of their NFL quality talents' part of my post was my response to Iowa fans who 'crow' about Iowa players in the NFL who had/gave mediocre results while at Iowa. Who else could be to blame for NFL talent that gets mediocre results in sacks, passing D, 3rd down efficiency, and points while in college? Coaches.
Hey Chad, aren't you the one who posted you were an expert on football because you saw countless high school football games?
Still, nothing to 'crow' about with Iowa's D...
There's one thing Nebby's D has over Iowa's D, and it's the main reason I'd want a Carl Pelini staffer rather than a Norm Parker staffer for DC:
Pass defense. Nebby has an effective pass defense - not that bend and also break stuff.
I'm sorry I buried this. It should have been in the OP.
That 'Iowa's coaches can't get a lot out of their NFL quality talents' part of my post was my response to Iowa fans who 'crow' about Iowa players in the NFL who had/gave mediocre results while at Iowa. Who else could be to blame for NFL talent that gets mediocre results in sacks, passing D, 3rd down efficiency, and points while in college? Coaches.
Hey Chad, aren't you the one who posted you were an expert on football because you saw countless high school football games?
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Quite honestly I would rather have Bradley out of PSU than anyone from Nebby. Look at what PSU's defenses have done over the years, not just this year either. I don't have the facts, but I am guessing they would stack up quite favorably or would even be better than Nebby's almost every year.
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Carl Pelini is a POS. That from his K-State days. He was terminated by Bill Snyder for behavior unacceptable.The day Bill found out he instructed a staff member, Sheahon Zenger, now KU AD, to get him out of town that very day.
HomerChampless
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Bradley from PSU would be an excellent choice.
It seems like you don’t do your homework very well or you wouldn't be acting like Carl Pelini is a god and Norm is just lucky to have a job.
Pass Defense
2011 Iowa (228 ypg) Nebraska (189 ypg)
2010 Iowa (230) Nebraska (153)
2009 Iowa (152) Nebraska (178)
2008 Iowa (197) Nebraska (233)
3rd down Efficiency
2011 Iowa (46%) Nebraska (40.88%)
2010 Iowa (40%) Nebraska (29%)
2009 Iowa (35%) Nebraska (32%)
2008 Iowa (34%) Nebraska (33%)
Scoring Defense
2011 Iowa (23ppg) Nebraska (22ppg)
2010 Iowa (17ppg) Nebraska (17ppg)
2009 Iowa (15ppg) Nebraska (10ppg)
2008 Iowa (13ppg) Nebraska (28ppg)
I would also add in Red Zone Defense
2011 Iowa (73%) Nebraska (83%)
2010 Iowa (77%) Nebraska (84%)
2009 Iowa (83%) Nebraska (64%)
2008 Iowa (76%) Nebraska (76%)
Okay, doubt Florida recruiting is it. But, I did say when he was hired that it was a weird fit to have him recruiting Florida.
Still don't think that is the reason.
Think it would most likely be like when Long left because the new OC wanted to coach QBs as well. Could be new DC wants to coach the DLine.
Also, at the time I said it didn't bode well for Coach K, but during a game the sideline reporter stated that KF got in the face of the DLine. There was some debate on if it was KF or coach K, but knowing about Coach K's demonstrative style, if he wasn't able to get his guys to play, it might mean his act has gotten tired.
Then again, maybe it's just a whole lotta smoke.
Still don't think that is the reason.
Think it would most likely be like when Long left because the new OC wanted to coach QBs as well. Could be new DC wants to coach the DLine.
Also, at the time I said it didn't bode well for Coach K, but during a game the sideline reporter stated that KF got in the face of the DLine. There was some debate on if it was KF or coach K, but knowing about Coach K's demonstrative style, if he wasn't able to get his guys to play, it might mean his act has gotten tired.
Then again, maybe it's just a whole lotta smoke.
74Hunter
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Yeah, this wouldn't surprise me. Carl seems like a likeable dude, but rumors are he has plenty of off the field issues.
GoHawks24
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I think it's mainly due to him not knowing a whole lot about football, in general..
MoseSchrute
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Hearsay is that he and Marvin Sanders have similar tendencies.
cmhawks99
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Poor save.....you made a poor statement, and can you do me a favor and find where I said I was an expert and then where I said I only watched high school football.
It is certainly true I have probably witched 50 plus high school games this year, with 20 plus still DVR'd but I have also probably watched 100 plus college games and will likely watch parts of every single bowl game, because its what I do. I have also watched 30 plus NFL games and although THAT does NOT make me an expert it does give me a load of perspective on what Iowa is or isn't doing different than anyone else. Unlike.....
I do get a chuckle on how people try to latch onto something and desperately try to use it as a form of discrediting....
Chad
PS......Nebbie gave up 189 pass yards per game and 14 TD's with 10 INTS. Iowa gave up 228 for 20 with 9 INTS.
Running D however, the yards per were similar but Nebbie gave up a whopping 21 TD's and Iowa 13. Based on my extensive game watching EVERY team high school to the NFL would still prefer to stop the run and limit ground TD's...
Anything else old pal.....
Tmoney12
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Poor save.....you made a poor statement, and can you do me a favor and find where I said I was an expert and then where I said I only watched high school football. It is certainly true I have probably witched 50 plus high school games this year, with 20 plus still DVR'd but I have also probably watched 100 plus college games and will likely watch parts of every single bowl game, because its what I do. I have also watched 30 plus NFL games and although THAT does NOT make me an expert it does give me a load of perspective on what Iowa is or isn't doing different than anyone else. Unlike..... I do get a chuckle on how people try to latch onto something and desperately try to use it as a form of discrediting.... Chad PS......Nebbie gave up 189 pass yards per game and 14 TD's with 10 INTS. Iowa gave up 228 for 20 with 9 INTS. Running D however, the yards per were similar but Nebbie gave up a whopping 21 TD's and Iowa 13. Based on my extensive game watching EVERY team high school to the NFL would still prefer to stop the run and limit ground TD's... Anything else old pal.....Hey Chad, it seems you're sayin' Nebby's coaches can't get any more out of their NFL talent than Iowa's coaches can? Hum? Still, nothing to 'crow' about with Iowa's D... There's one thing Nebby's D has over Iowa's D, and it's the main reason I'd want a Carl Pelini staffer rather than a Norm Parker staffer for DCass defense. Nebby has an effective pass defense - not that bend and also break stuff. I'm sorry I buried this. It should have been in the OP. That 'Iowa's coaches can't get a lot out of their NFL quality talents' part of my post was my response to Iowa fans who 'crow' about Iowa players in the NFL who had/gave mediocre results while at Iowa. Who else could be to blame for NFL talent that gets mediocre results in sacks, passing D, 3rd down efficiency, and points while in college? Coaches. Hey Chad, aren't you the one who posted you were an expert on football because you saw countless high school football games?
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