"Nebraska is Dead" Video





Here's what I don't get about this. Nebbie had 7 losing season with no bowl game. They just had their second consecutive winning season with a bowl game and NOW the wheels are falling off?
 




hawkdrummer1 said:
Here's what I don't get about this. Nebbie had 7 losing season with no bowl game. They just had their second consecutive winning season with a bowl game and NOW the wheels are falling off?
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They don’t have the patience needed to build a program. I looooooooove it
 








hawkdrummer1 said:
I always thought that was a big contrived. The "Blackshirts". Oooooh, so your good defense players get black practice jerseys. Wow, impressive
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I think that goes all all the way back to the 70s. Back when they really did have an elite defense. Maybe the 60s. In the early 70s they were loaded on the D Line and they won two national championships. To get the Blackshirt back then was a badge of honor. But alas, we're not in the 70s any more.
 






Emmett Johnson has opted out of the bowl game. Which is the right decision but without him you can easily tack on another loss to Nebby's record.

What a mess.
 




Despite Fry's new sign postage on Rhule, if Nebbie was smart they would ride things out with Rhule. There are going to be some hiccups, and next year is likely going to be a downturn, but the guy has proven that he can build a program, recruit, and win at a modest level. What is their other choice, tear it all down again and start over again with another guy that may or may not work out? Their problem has been their lack of patience, consistency, and ability to build a culture. Rhule can do that. His ceiling is probably 10 wins and he is never returning Nebbie to the 90s, but he can keep them on the winning side of the ledger. That is what they should do. But, what I hope they do is fire him when he goes 5-7 next year.
 


NorthKCHawk said:
What is their other choice, tear it all down again and start over again with another guy that may or may not work out?
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He can be fake news (he is) and bolded can be true at the same time.

We can have our cake and eat it too with nebraska football.

NorthKCHawk said:
...the guy has proven that he can build a program...
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Also, he hasn't proven he can build a P4 program. He had a single good season at Baylor where he never beat a good team. Go look at the records of the teams he beat. There's two winning conference records in there I believe. Baylor's SOS in 2019 was dead last in the B12 and that's even with them playing two top 10 teams. That isn't a build or a rebuild.

Temple doesn't translate into major college football.

Rhule is doing what Riley and Frost did towards the end of their respective tenures. Throwing shit at the wall, babbling in front of reporters, and firing assistants hoping something will stick.

Riley's 1st (only) 3 years conference records:

3-5 Beat Minnesota, MSU, Rutgers
6-3 Beat NW, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, Minnesota, Maryland
3-6 Beat Rutgers, Illinois, Purdue

Frost's first 3 years conference record:

3-6 Beat Minnesota, Illinois, MSU
3-6 Beat Illinois, NW, Maryland
3-5 Beat PSU, Purdue, Rutgers

Rhule's first 3 years conference record:

3-6 Beat Illinois, NW, Purdue
3-6 Beat Purdue, Rutgers, Wisconsin
4-5 Beat MSU, Maryland, NW, UCLA

There's a little bit of a pattern there...

Rhule has ZERO even remotely marquee wins in 3 years, conference or otherwise. Rhule has never in 3 years beaten a single team with a winning conference record and only ONE team with an overall winning record (8-5 NW in 2023). If you look at schedules and wins of Riley and Frost's first 3 years, they actually had much more competitive seasons than Rhule has ever had in the same time period. If you're using making a bowl game as criteria I don't know what to tell you. Non-con wins over terrible teams are the reason for that.

All this reinforces what I've been saying about Rhule. He's a great used car salesman. He says all the right things at all the right times but it's a bunch of fluff. He's all talk and no results. Just like how Frost came in as Johnny Hometown...saying he was restoring the glory and gave all the lifted Ram-driving, backward hat-wearing, 45 year old husker fans with skull decals in their back windows HUGE natty boners, but didn't do shit as far as results. Well it's the same thing with Rhule. He had all these cool shiny ideas of how he was gonna bring back the glory, just in a new way because husker fans knew Riley and Frost's ideas weren't it. What he's done is nothing but embarrass himself with the nice "blackout" game meltdown at home against USC on national TV, let Minnesota rush their field after getting blown out, and then bring all his best recruits down on the fied to watch Iowa stomp a mudhole in his team at home. A game he said was the most important one of the season.

All talk, no results.

Fake News.
 


Fryowa said:
Rhule has ZERO even remotely marquee wins in 3 years, conference or otherwise. Rhule has never in 3 years beaten a single team with a winning conference record and only ONE team with an overall winning record (8-5 NW in 2023). If you look at schedules and wins of Riley and Frost's first 3 years, they actually had much more competitive seasons than Rhule has ever had in the same time period. If you're using making a bowl game as criteria I don't know what to tell you. Non-con wins over terrible teams are the reason for that.
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And yet, extending Rhule was the absolute best move on their part.

Which is awesome.

I love the fact that Nebraska's best bet, was extending him.
 




I will also say that none of what I've posted about Matt Rhule is an indictment of him as a person. Nothing I've seen or heard from the guy leads me to believe he's not a really good person. I believe he cares about his players, his family, and fans. I don't see him as a guy who'd start a sign stealing program or go to a Diddy party or get his assistant pregnant. Or a beer cart girl in Lincoln *cough* *scott frost*

I just don't think he's what he was being sold as as a football coach.
 


Again, I am not defending Rhule as a great coach, but he is better than you portray in your skewed statistics. Suggesting he and Frost performed at the same level is silly. You can't cherry pick the stats and only look at conference performance. Non con games happened, and Rhule, unlike Frost, generally won those. Frost had four years and never had a winning record or made a bowl. Rhule did both in year 2 and now again in year 3. Frost was also a clown and ran a loose and questionable ship. Rhule has the semblance of a culture forming in winning the games Nebbie should be winning. He just can't win anything else. Rhule has objectively outperformed Frost. Frost was a dumpster fire. Rhule is just a dumpster.

Riley is the epitome of what is wrong with Nebbie's bad football culture. He was a bad hire, don't get me wrong. But he won in year 2, took a step back in year 3, and then you fire him? No patience and unrealistic expectations have been a deadly combination for the Bugeaters.

Overall I agree that Rhule is nothing special and his resume is not as good as Nebbie spun it coming in. But, he is certainly competent in his running of Nebbie's program and he has restored Nebbie to thoroughly average. I don't think he is capable of much more, but I think he can keep Nebbie at something like Minny is under Fleck. And again, if I were running Nebbie and wanted to chart the best course, I would stick with Rhule and hope he can outperform himself to date. But, because the Sand People are stupid, they will probably keep the "need to get to the next level" cycle going for another generation.
 


If Nebby fired Rhule what high profile HC would apply there given their track record? You have a fan base that still has way too high expectations and you are in a state where your best recruiting base is Omaha. The kids you are recruiting now were not alive the last time Nebby finished the season ranked. With ISU emerging as a decent team they don't own the western side of Iowa anymore.

The day they move on from Rhule they will be stuck looking at FCS or D2 coaching candidates. Perhaps a coordinator desperate for his own HC gig. Nebraska is a hot mess and it's either Rhule or bust at this point.
 


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