NDSU - Are They That Good?

HawkGold said:
If he had such a perfect game, Iowa doesn't lose. There is a reason they didn't throw until 3rd down.

I think CJ is a great quarterback. One of the best at Iowa ever. He's in a lot of pain when throwing. I can about guarantee that. I just didn't see him play the same as he did for so many games last year. A team that struggled to stop 2 other FCS teams doesn't have that great of D. No way.
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He didn't have a perfect game. But like I said, other than the 2 early throws that stood out because they were so early and one would have been a huge game, he pretty mucheap had a standard game. Our oline is so bad right now it isn't even funny. He has no time at all and the receivers make it even worse.
 
PCHawk said:
He didn't have a perfect game. But like I said, other than the 2 early throws that stood out because they were so early and one would have been a huge game, he pretty mucheap had a standard game. Our oline is so bad right now it isn't even funny. He has no time at all and the receivers make it even worse.
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Agree on the line. I've never understand how an NFL lineman factory can have some years where it is bad. Iowa has had more than a few.

Still think he's got a bad knee.
 
HawkGold said:
In your previous post and others I've seen where you want to use derogatives to get your points across.

In your words: Anyone who says stupidness like you do at times...

It's pretty stupid of you to try and win arguments with such stupid statements. To denigrate your level, you comments about speed and quickness not being important are:::: stupid.

One cannot compare CJ passing to relatively slow by D1 receivers to relatively slow defenders at ISU as NFL caliber. To make such a claim is just: STUPID.

CJ last year proved he could throw into tight places. I would guess that mostly came from throwing when not expected due to his field awareness. CJ's field awareness and daredevilness is looking more like the major key to last year than thought.

With a sore knee passes go high due to throwing more from the body. I'm guessing it was more sore last Saturday than against ISU. Plus NDSU probably has more speed and they played to keep the receiver in front. CJ missed a number of wide opens to the TE that may have gone for score. Not typical of him. I seriously doubt he had a bad game. Iowa was also missing Wadley's speed, which I understood well that Daniels in not the answer against speed. He's simply not that fast. Compared to ISU he is.

Anyway, what is with you and a few others to do such insulting. The answer is insecurity. Sorry you feel so bad about yourself.
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1) Again, simply copy and paste ONE POST, ONE where I say stupidness. ONE. Otherwise your argument fails.

2) Are you that f'g dense in the head you can't track the conversation or a point that was trying to be made? Seriously, go back and read from the beginning. I never stated speed was not important for WR at the D1 level, never stated it. It was never part of the argument or point until you brought it up. Has nothing to do with the point I was attempting to make, a point that all others seem to understand, except one individual, YOU.

The point is the receivers were already TIGHTLY covering Matt V. with great coverage and CJ put the ball on the money. My point is on those three throws in the Iowa State game, CJ put the ball in the exact correct spot the receiver could get it as he was on that night.. CJ made NFL caliber passes that night. Had nothing to do with the routes or the speed. I WAS MERELY COMMENTING ON THE QUALITY OF THE PASSES HE MADE INTO THE TIGHT COVERAGE BY THE D-BACKS, REGARDLESS OF WHO THEY PLAYED FOR OR THE * RATINGS. The point was NEVER about the ability of the WR to create separation with speed, it was ABOUT the throws CJ was making during the Iowa State game.

3) So now lets access your assumptions. You have absolutely no knowledge but assume CJ's knee was affecting him during the NDSU game but not the Iowa State game. None of us know what is going on with CJ's knee or the extent. Only Fort Ferentz knows. You're presuming I'm insecure. Well wrong, I feel quite good about myself. Live in the best part of the state 15 minutes from Kinnick, job at the University, wife and two boys. Life is good! I don't feel bad about myself at all, thanks for assuming that.

I don't have a problem with most on here actually, but, sounds like you do. Sorry about that. I presume most would say I'm pretty fair and cordial. For some reason you clash with me. When someone nips at me, and if I see fit, I take a bite back.

Oh, by the way, I'm pretty sure daredevilness is not a word. Ironic it end in "ness" as stupidness does.

Ironic the similarity there!
 
HawkGold said:
Agree on the line. I've never understand how an NFL lineman factory can have some years where it is bad. Iowa has had more than a few.

Still think he's got a bad knee.
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As Jon pointed out in his podcast, he stated he thinks Iowa just has a lot of guards and not top tackles on roster. Yea, would think Iowa would be pretty consistent and reload at the lines.
 
Before the NDSU game, Iowa's line was grading out as one of the top few run blocking lines in the country. This week without Welsh and playing without Daniels against a better line they just weren't good enough. I would bet money this week that they have another 200 yd game on the ground bc both starters are back.
 
Also disagree with Miller about all guards. The interior guys are the guys who have messed up the most in pass protection. And Boettger is a pretty good right tackle. Croston is above average as a right tackle. I think Myers is the worst by far of the starting lineman. But there is a huge drop off from Welsh to Render. Welsh is by far the best lineman and Daniels probably second.
 
MelroseHawkins said:
1) Again, simply copy and paste ONE POST, ONE where I say stupidness. ONE. Otherwise your argument fails.

2) Are you that f'g dense in the head you can't track the conversation or a point that was trying to be made? Seriously, go back and read from the beginning. I never stated speed was not important for WR at the D1 level, never stated it. It was never part of the argument or point until you brought it up. Has nothing to do with the point I was attempting to make, a point that all others seem to understand, except one individual, YOU.

The point is the receivers were already TIGHTLY covering Matt V. with great coverage and CJ put the ball on the money. My point is on those three throws in the Iowa State game, CJ put the ball in the exact correct spot the receiver could get it as he was on that night.. CJ made NFL caliber passes that night. Had nothing to do with the routes or the speed. I WAS MERELY COMMENTING ON THE QUALITY OF THE PASSES HE MADE INTO THE TIGHT COVERAGE BY THE D-BACKS, REGARDLESS OF WHO THEY PLAYED FOR OR THE * RATINGS. The point was NEVER about the ability of the WR to create separation with speed, it was ABOUT the throws CJ was making during the Iowa State game.

3) So now lets access your assumptions. You have absolutely no knowledge but assume CJ's knee was affecting him during the NDSU game but not the Iowa State game. None of us know what is going on with CJ's knee or the extent. Only Fort Ferentz knows. You're presuming I'm insecure. Well wrong, I feel quite good about myself. Live in the best part of the state 15 minutes from Kinnick, job at the University, wife and two boys. Life is good! I don't feel bad about myself at all, thanks for assuming that.

I don't have a problem with most on here actually, but, sounds like you do. Sorry about that. I presume most would say I'm pretty fair and cordial. For some reason you clash with me. When someone nips at me, and if I see fit, I take a bite back.

Oh, by the way, I'm pretty sure daredevilness is not a word. Ironic it end in "ness" as stupidness does.

Ironic the similarity there!
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I can't help your insecurity. Sorry. Maybe you've heard of synonyms.

To help you out here: A synonym is a word or phrase that means nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language.
 
HawkGold said:
I can't help your insecurity. Sorry. Maybe you've heard of synonyms.

To help you out here: A synonym is a word or phrase that means nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language.
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Pretty sure you can't just put "ness" on the back of a word and call it a synonym.

Examples of synonyms:
Weird = Strange
nice = pleasant
annoyed = irritated
angry = furious


I don't see: furious = furiousness
 
HawkGold said:
Yes, I think KF has reloaded 3 times in what 18 years?
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You would think at a school like Iowa with the success at coaching lineman and with both Ferentz's coaching line in the NFL that Iowa would get some top rated recruits at that position. One would think some top rated recruits would come here as it's a pretty good path to the NFL.
 
I think the biggest problem with the line is they can't get on the same page on who picks up who. I see more going in untouched than people getting beat one on one. Maybe not more I guess but way too much of it.
 
MelroseHawkins said:
You would think at a school like Iowa with the success at coaching lineman and with both Ferentz's coaching line in the NFL that Iowa would get some top rated recruits at that position. One would think some top rated recruits would come here as it's a pretty good path to the NFL.
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I was excited about the oline recruits the last couple years or so but not really hearing any buzz about them. Either a bunch of misses or the union card playing out.
 
PCHawk said:
I think the biggest problem with the line is they can't get on the same page on who picks up who. I see more going in untouched than people getting beat one on one. Maybe not more I guess but way too much of it.
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I agree. I think you can see them getting crossed up at times. Not sure if something NDSU was doing that Iowa State was not or if just had a bad night. The line has to gel and is not a good position to take a lot of hits with injuries at the same time. Iowa's best lines have always worked in unison, and when they are off it doesn't look good.
 
PCHawk said:
I was excited about the oline recruits the last couple years or so but not really hearing any buzz about them. Either a bunch of misses or the union card playing out.
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Probably developing as that is one position where takes some time to bulk up around 300lb while learning Ferentz technique. Those are the recruits that you don't typically hear about for a couple years, then are like "Oh yea, I remember him".
 
MelroseHawkins said:
Congratulations on your publications. I always thought writing a book would be pretty neat.
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Actually it is. It is also a lot of work. Part of the reason I like coming on here and not worrying about spell check. I can look stupid here and it doesn't really matter and sometimes I good at it (looking stupid). Josh Brown and Dean tell me it often :)
 
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