NBA Playoffs

[JHHawk]

Supposedly Lebron is not happy with Heat management due to how they did not re-sign Miller, who made many huge 3 pters in both Finals they won. Also, did not like how the Heat cut Joel Anthony at mid-season just to save salary. And the Heat did not use their veterans exception in the offseason to sign another useful player. They left him out there by himself, with little help from his supporting cast.

 

[theboat]

You were not really paying attention to what I said. The facts are facts, and the fact is LeBron had a significant white fan base before he went to Miami, and now he doesn't. They why and how are the grey area, and while I don't think it is exclusively based on race, it would be naive to axiomatically assume race has no factor.

Big words dont make your hypothesis less silly.

 

[theboat]

Supposedly Lebron is not happy with Heat management due to how they did not re-sign Miller, who made many huge 3 pters in both Finals they won. Also, did not like how the Heat cut Joel Anthony at mid-season just to save salary. And the Heat did not use their veterans exception in the offseason to sign another useful player. They left him out there by himself, with little help from his supporting cast.

If lebron needs mike miller and joel anthony then he is worse than I thought.

 

[HawkeyeMike23]

If lebron needs mike miller and joel anthony then he is worse than I thought.

Joel Anthony wouldn't have helped Miami, but losing Miller was a big loss. You don't just lose a guy who played big minutes in each of your past two title runs, and not feel it. Chalmers and Wade playing terrible and Battier looking washed up made his loss seem even bigger.

 

[YWinston]

Big words dont make your hypothesis less silly.

I didn't offer a hypothesis. You just seem to be uncomfortable with the issue, so you're trying to marginalize it.

 

[theboat]

I didn't offer a hypothesis. You just seem to be uncomfortable with the issue, so you're trying to marginalize it.

Nope. I just know a stupid argument when I see it. Saying people dont like lebron because he is black (while those same people like others that are) is really too dumb to even argue against. I guess you win ghost.

 

[RocknRollface]

you made the comparison of lebron to 'bird, johnson and jordan'.........here is something interesting if you are going to compare these individuals:

Finals records

Jordan 6-0
Magic 5-4
Kobe 5-2
Duncan 5-1
Bird 3-2 (two losses come from somone else on this list)
LeBron 2-3

one of these things is not like the other -

The one obvious thing is that the 5 with winning records had far superior teams around them.

All had multiple other hall of famers, Kobe wasn't even the best player on his team 3 of those titles.

Wade and Bosh in their current state are no where near that level anymore, neither one can hardly even jump.

I'm not a Lebron fan at all, I've rooted against him every finals but I'm realistic.

 

[RocknRollface]

Kobe - wasn't the best player on his team for over half his titles. Is that what it is?

Neither is Duncan for that matter, although he was for most of them.

 

[YWinston]

Nope. I just know a stupid argument when I see it. Saying people dont like lebron because he is black (while those same people like others that are) is really too dumb to even argue against. I guess you win ghost.

That would be a dumb argument, if it's the argument I made. However, it wasn't, and you know it wasn't.

Like I said, we can discuss the underlying causes, but there are pronounced demographic differences here, and no matter how stupid you think it is, it's real.


The reluctance of white fans to embrace LeBron again is the principle reason his overall popularity lags behind what it was with the Cavs. It's easy to come up with theories on why this is so, and harder to prove those theories. Other demographics have been far more forgiving, though.

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2014/story/_/page/mindoffan/how-fans-see-lebron-james