Nate Stanley on Oliver Martin

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Stanley during the interview when asked about Martin. Under complete coach speak control.
 
Hawkfnntn said:
If players in the NFL can change teams in midseason/midweek and play right away then surely the heck college kids that spent most of an off season and handful of weeks into this season can have enough down to play...
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lmfao jfc read what you just said, then punch yourself in the face and read it again.
 
How can Martin be expected to master the offense when our own OC doesn't even know what the hell we are trying to do?
 
WinOneThisCentury said:
It would have been funny if Stanley said, "Well, Oliver's a little bit behind the other WRs right now...he doesn't catch balls behind him as well as the other guys, so that's keeping him off the field. He's working really hard and I'm throwing extra to him after practice so he becomes a better bad ball catcher."
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"I keep telling him, slow down a little, I don't want to throw it behind you."
 
NikeHawk21 said:
I’ve mentioned this in past threads. It’s super perplexing the way Iowa handles their WRs. They lock them into one position and say well that’s not really his position. Then on the other hand BF grumbles on and on about getting the best players on the field.

It’s WR it’s not that difficult. Iowa’s route trees are not that complex. Oliver wasn’t getting a lot of play time in the slot so he should have been practicing at every WR spot.
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They think receivers are blockers for walk on tight ends and fullbacks. They simply don’t get the position
 
ChosenChildren said:
The Iowa sports writers are so intimidated by Ferentz & Co that it is just laughable.

I thought the Brian Ferentz response to the question by Chad Leisowitz (sp?) of the Des Moines Register about Martin playing time was a small but illuminating window into how Brian and how father view the press. Brian basically took his head off for having the gall to ask such an aggressive question. .

I can't defend the Ferentz machine any more. I did it for years. We really need a change at Iowa, but I don't see one on the horizon any time soon.

I think the Iowa fan base is going through what Penn State endured during the final years of the Paterno era (before the Sandusky scandal). Penn State had a tired offense and was easy to defend, but no one wanted to take on Joe Pa, the legend.

No one wants to criticize Ferentz now. He has done a great job at Iowa but he has absolutely reached a plateau. We are above average but not great. It won't fly at programs like Ohio State or Michigan (or even Nebraska), but it seems to work at Iowa. I really wonder when he will hang it up. Brian will be the next Iowa head coach and he will fail miserably. Will it all play out in my life time? Doubtful.
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I’ve said this 100x over
 
BVHawk95 said:
NFL teams all run extremely similar offenses with similar route trees, and still have the aforementioned positions and archetypes. Apples to oranges.
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And this post proves what a clown and over the top homer you are as you’ll stop at nothing to defend this staff. Some of us have been around long enough to know better...junior
 
ChosenChildren said:
The Iowa sports writers are so intimidated by Ferentz & Co that it is just laughable.

I thought the Brian Ferentz response to the question by Chad Leisowitz (sp?) of the Des Moines Register about Martin playing time was a small but illuminating window into how Brian and how father view the press. Brian basically took his head off for having the gall to ask such an aggressive question. .

I can't defend the Ferentz machine any more. I did it for years. We really need a change at Iowa, but I don't see one on the horizon any time soon.

I think the Iowa fan base is going through what Penn State endured during the final years of the Paterno era (before the Sandusky scandal). Penn State had a tired offense and was easy to defend, but no one wanted to take on Joe Pa, the legend.

No one wants to criticize Ferentz now. He has done a great job at Iowa but he has absolutely reached a plateau. We are above average but not great. It won't fly at programs like Ohio State or Michigan (or even Nebraska), but it seems to work at Iowa. I really wonder when he will hang it up. Brian will be the next Iowa head coach and he will fail miserably. Will it all play out in my life time? Doubtful.
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Why do you say KF has done a "great" job at Iowa? He is an example of a coach/athlete who has longevity, which equals legacy numbers. What has he done "great?"
 
oldhawk12 said:
I’ve said this 100x over
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No, only 99. :)

And when was our last walk on tight end? We happen to have three pretty good ones in the NFL, and two more had their careers cut short, three if you count Jake Duzey.

Dallas Clark, a player you may have heard of, could have a hof case made for him
 
Northside Hawk said:
The beady eyes of Kirk Ferentz are looming just of camera, daring him to say what he really wants.:)
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Haha makes me think of an article I saw a few days ago about Jeremiah Denton, the Vietnam POW who blinked in morse code after being forced to give a fake confession. Link

Anybody care to watch and translate Stanley's eyes?
 
uihawk82 said:
Yes, like 'hwk23' said the two most outside players on the offensive LOS is eligible to go out for a pass.

There are only a couple of formation rules in american football. One, no more than four players can be in the backfield at the snap of the ball. Two, unless a player is in continuous motion laterally or backwards all players have to be set motionless for one count/second. And third was what I and Hwk23 mentioned above about being the end two players on the LOS being the only eligible receivers lined up on the LOS.

So this means that when a fifth or more person lines up at least a yard behind the LOS you should see an illegal formation penalty for too many in the backfield.

But at the same time a team could put 10 players on the LOS and have just the QB in the backfield if they want but in this formation their are only two eligible wide receivers on the field except for the QB with some razzle dazzle play.

When Wisky did their Jumbo package against Iowa last year they had an extra linemen on the LOS.

How do you get a Tackle Eligible play? You set your formation with only one receiver, TE or Split out, on one side of the line and they are covering up the offensive tackle. Prior to the snap a slot receiver a yard off the LOS on the other side of the formation shifts onto the LOS so there are only 3 players in the backfield. Then that first receiver mentioned who is covering up the tackle shifts back a yard to be the fourth man in the backfield. Now the Tackle is on the end of the LOS and is eligible to catch a pass. That 2nd receiver who secondly shifted back into the backfield could go in motion to the other side of the formation leaving the offensive tackle as the only receiver on his side of the field. This is a deception play.

As you might expect any player in the offensive backfield at the snap can go out for a pass.
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When we ran the polecat against Ohio State a couple years ago Kluver was not covered up because all of the players on one side were lined up off the line of scrimmage. It's why the play was so deceiving.
 
hawkeyes87 said:
I can't believe I didn't catch that- even the first time I saw your reply.

I'm too embarrassed now to even comment on the connection between SE (X) and Slot (Y)
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Dangit I want it to be true but unfortunately the Y is the "tight end"
 
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