Name that Iowa Freshman Point Guard

[Hawk5656]

PC isn't a Clown troll, you are.....weird how that works.

So this was PC's original thought, not him trying to troll me. Do you agree with this?

He had a great assist to turnover ratio because he rarely tried to make a play happen. If there was a stat to keep track of assist to turnover ratio of when you're actually trying to make a play, he was probably pretty low on the list of Big 10 point guards. Think about the times Gesell did a drive and dish. I literally can't think of one. He rarely if ever drove the lane and dumped it off for an easy layup. Those are the assists that really help a team and areally hard to replace. His assists came in the flow of the offense.

 

[PCHawk]

So this was PC's original thought, not him trying to troll me. Do you agree with this?

He had a great assist to turnover ratio because he rarely tried to make a play happen. If there was a stat to keep track of assist to turnover ratio of when you're actually trying to make a play, he was probably pretty low on the list of Big 10 point guards. Think about the times Gesell did a drive and dish. I literally can't think of one. He rarely if ever drove the lane and dumped it off for an easy layup. Those are the assists that really help a team and areally hard to replace. His assists came in the flow of the offense.

Wow I read that and thought you actually said something smart for a second.

 

[Hawk5656]

Wow I read that and thought you actually said something smart for a second.

And you would say the same thing about Jordan

 

[PCHawk]

And you would say the same thing about Jordan

You think I think Jordan has the exact same amount of "unimpressive" assists as Mike did?

 

[Hawk5656]

You think I think Jordan has the exact same amount of "unimpressive" assists as Mike did?

Well yeah he doesn't drive and kick so you must think he's are unimpressive just like Mike's.

 

[theboat]

Well yeah he doesn't drive and kick so you must think he's are unimpressive just like Mike's.

I feel like this has been mentioned before, but you do know he is a freshman right?

One of two things is happening:
1. You are trolling extremely poorly or
2. You don't understand the basic tenets of college basketball.

It can only be one, choose wisely

 

[Hawk5656]

I feel like this has been mentioned before, but you do know he is a freshman right?

One of two things is happening:
1. You are trolling extremely poorly or
2. You don't understand the basic tenets of college basketball.

It can only be one, choose wisely

I understand he's a freshman. PC said this about Mike:

He had a great assist to turnover ratio because he rarely tried to make a play happen. If there was a stat to keep track of assist to turnover ratio of when you're actually trying to make a play, he was probably pretty low on the list of Big 10 point guards. Think about the times Gesell did a drive and dish. I literally can't think of one. He rarely if ever drove the lane and dumped it off for an easy layup. Those are the assists that really help a team and areally hard to replace. His assists came in the flow of the offense.

I believe he would think the same about Bohannon that his assists come in the flow of the offense and aren't really impressive

 

[theboat]

I understand he's a freshman. PC said this about Mike:

He had a great assist to turnover ratio because he rarely tried to make a play happen. If there was a stat to keep track of assist to turnover ratio of when you're actually trying to make a play, he was probably pretty low on the list of Big 10 point guards. Think about the times Gesell did a drive and dish. I literally can't think of one. He rarely if ever drove the lane and dumped it off for an easy layup. Those are the assists that really help a team and areally hard to replace. His assists came in the flow of the offense.

I believe he would think the same about Bohannon that his assists come in the flow of the offense and aren't really impressive

Except Bohannon=5.1, Gesell=2.6

That's a YUGE difference

 

[Hawk5656]

Except Bohannon=5.1, Gesell=2.6

That's a YUGE difference

He was talking about Gesell as a senior when he said that

 

[PCHawk]

He was talking about Gesell as a senior when he said that

I still think it about Mike. Jordan was 33% for "non fake" assists per you. I would say Mike was around 5% "non fake" assists his senior year.

 

[PCHawk]

Just a reminder for everyone else. Context is key.

 

[theboat]

Just a reminder for everyone else. Context is key.

You don't need to explain yourself. It's clear 56 just wants to argue. I just wish he was better at it for the sport of it

 

[Tate4Heisman]

I have no dog in this fight although it is pretty entertaining. The biggest difference between Bohannon and MG is that teams have to respect Bohannon's jump shot which allows Iowa to spread the floor more.

 

[Hawk5656]

I still think it about Mike. Jordan was 33% for "non fake" assists per you. I would say Mike was around 5% "non fake" assists his senior year.

Mike's assists were very similar to Jordan's this year, even you can admit that. Jordan's "non fake" assists per the season is probably 15% or so

 

[InGoodCo]

Mike's assists were very similar to Jordan's this year, even you can admit that. Jordan's "non fake" assists per the season is probably 15% or so

so now we're just making up #'s? An assist is an assist is an assist. They all led to a bucket. Some are more impressive than others, some are into the post, some not - they all count. None are faked and Jordan is proving to be much better so far than Mike at it when comparing their first seasons.

 

[Hawk5656]

so now we're just making up #'s? An assist is an assist is an assist. They all led to a bucket. Some are more impressive than others, some are into the post, some not - they all count. None are faked and Jordan is proving to be much better so far than Mike at it when comparing their first seasons.

PC made up the numbers not me. I don't know why I'm the one always getting attacked for what he says

 

[PCHawk]

What's funny is all this debating is going on about whether or not we can win in spite of having Jordan at point guard, while in reality, we are winning because of him.

 

[deanvogs]

PC made up the numbers not me. I don't know why I'm the one always getting attacked for what he says

Because you are the only one using it to talk about a current player. Who cares what Mike did or didn't do last year. You are literally the only person on the planet talking about Jordan's "fake assists". Nobody else, that is why you get attacked for it.

 

[Hawk5656]

Because you are the only one using it to talk about a current player. Who cares what Mike did or didn't do last year. You are literally the only person on the planet talking about Jordan's "fake assists". Nobody else, that is why you get attacked for it.

So we can make things up and criticize a former player that was a HUGE reason we went to 3 straight tournaments but we can't do the same to a current player. Why is that?

 

[deanvogs]

So we can make things up and criticize a former player that was a HUGE reason we went to 3 straight tournaments but we can't do the same to a current player. Why is that?

Why do you keep doing it, if you hate it so much? I mean it really seems to have touched a nerve that PC would dare do this.....yet you have quickly and more eagerly used this very same thing against Jordan at least 100 more time than PC did it.