My Interview with Oliver Martin from Tonight
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BILLBUCKNER
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Ratings are an odd thing. My eye balls told me this kid was a div 1 player. Had Iowa offered sooner..Oliver may have committed and been a 2 star player because he's from Iowa. Now that he has dominated at these national camps,he's now likely a 4 star because Michigan wants him. I really don't understand why it took so long to offer him. Coach Doyle's son played at WEST also and he saw him and should have known his work ethic. It won't make or break this recruiting class but it would suck to lose a talented player from our backyard at a position that we really struggle to recruit at.
judzeehawk
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If he truly is a diehard Hawk fan then getting a scholarship from Iowa should suffice. If he's ticked because he didn't get the offer before anyone else offered........well that kind of puzzles me. Go off to another college just because he didn't get offered first. If he does go somewhere else I think he'll regret it.
Your are a 'talent scout'? A football coach? Tell us all about all the other kids your eyeballs told you were D1 players! Lol, you're funny....
There are just too many players to properly evaluate all of them. That's why you should never worry about stars when the coaches sign their primary targets. That said, the odds of a 4 star kid being good is way higher than the odds of a 3 star kid being good. They're way way higher than a 2 star kid being good. That's why the people making the argument that no one wanted Martin 2 months ago doesn't make sense. Of course people aren't going to get excited over a low ranked kid. Why would you?
That said, people that had seen him play were on here excited about him before he blew up. All anyone else has to go off of is recruiting ranking so if it's low, excitement is low. If it's high, excitement is high. That doesn't make fans fickle like some people are making them out to be. All it means is they're using the information they have.
doublehawkeye
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Advantage BILLBUCKNER.
BILLBUCKNER
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Tim Dwight...but that one was pretty easy
..I got to see a few of his games. I have never seen anyone like him in person at the HS level that did what he did.
Are you 'challenged'? He made this post AFTER he had 5 offers and AFTER Iowa offered? Nice try though........
So when you were watching Tim Dwight, you didn't notice any of the D1 talent he was playing and didn't tell everyone??? So you haven't seen a game in the last 20 some years that your 'eyeballs' told you were D1 talent? You're even funnier now....I've seen and 'called' dozens dozens of Iowa D1 talent in the last 20-30 years, but like I said in your 'reference' thread, Martin didn't play like it in the 3 games I saw (and obviously college recruiters noticed the same thing)...I'm glad he's 'exploded' and improved (in shorts and a t-shirt and no pads, lol) and I hope he does really well, but don't embarrass yourself acting like you can evaluate talent, lol..........Tim Dwight...but that one was pretty easy
BILLBUCKNER
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What the hell is your problem? Why are you such a dick? Its posters like you that criticize and nitpik others for what they share that make them not want to post. I shared my opinion. The reason I posted about Martin is I have seen him play for the last 3 seasons. He is a very gifted athlete. I hope he goes were he will be happiest. If he was my son I selfishly would want him to go to Iowa where he could have the opportunity to play for a great coaching staff and achieve his athletics dreams. But if he wants to go to Michigan I wouldn't blame him because of dicks like you. All you have done is post drivel critizing him because you saw 3 games 'were he did nothing'. My opinion was validated because he can go where ever he chooses now.
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He mocks you for being a talent evaluator then says he can spot talent 2 posts later. Just laugh him off like everyone else does.
BigD
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I think he stays home and follows his dream of being a hawkeye. I certainly don't visualize him going to another Big Ten team who he would have dispised growing up. He could consider going to a school on the West coast but that could present a challenge for his family to see him play on a regular basis. Stay at Iowa and family and friends get to watch you on a regular basis fullfil your childhood dream. Oliver will enjoy the attention and take advantage of seeing a few campuses before happily signing with the he HAWKS.
trj
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Or maybe he doesn't want to live in a fishbowl. Go somewhere where he is just 'another football player'. Go somewhere where no one cares who he is dating and what she looks like(making the assumption that he is into chicks). By the end Tim Dwight couldn't get out of Iowa City fast enough. It wasn't the fans or the town, it was just he got tired of the scrutiny. Dude couldn't wait and pack his things and get to Atlanta.
He can go wherever he chooses now? Can he go to USC, OSU or Alabama? Lol. I wasn't criticizing him, I was explaining why he might not have recieved offers right away. You were criticizing the staff for not offering 'earlier' when you are in no position to criticize or evaluate, but try to pretend you are. If you're going to question or criticize, expect to be scrutinized. Pretty simple really. "You are not entitled to your own opinion, you are entitled to an INFORMED opinion...no one is entitle to be ignorant" Harlan Ellison...............
GrandpaHawk
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Someone needs to take a chill pill.Football can't come soon enough.Lol
eveningnewsteam
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Simple, They took him for granted. Iowa didnt offer until everyone else did and now they have to put the full court press on to get him. Everyone is looking for why Iowa didnt offer? There's your reason.
