NCHawker
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Multiple Coaches Leaving the Program
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Billso
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Well, you might be a d-bag too if your name was "Lester Erb".
twinhawkfans
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Dumbest thing I've ever heard........
MNHawkeyeFreak
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How's your butt?
HawkinGoferLand
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Saw a tidbit on Gazette that said Erb was not at Junior Day last weekend so take it for what it's worth.
CAAR, this is not directed specifically at you.
I suppose it is a fail, but it is not realistic. The best programs in the country sometimes have kicking issues because you don't know what is going to happen when they step on the field. Iowa gives out 4 year scholarships, so as long the kid keeps his nose clean, you can't really "get rid of him." When it doesn't work, it's not like you can just, not have a kicker or punter. Who could have ever guessed that Mullings wouldn't be able to ever get a punt off in less than 10 seconds. The coaches probably thought the same thing I did. "That seems very correctable." It sucks that they have wasted scholarships on Mullings and Mossbrucker, but that is no different than any other position on the field. You're going to miss sometimes. I would rather they "waste" another scholarship on Cornbrath, than hope Mullings figures it out. Going into next year I think they have two scholarship punters and one scholarship kicker?
If anybody wants to talk about wasting scholarships on kickers, talk to some of the Clone fans on this board. I don't think I am exaggerating when I say there was a time when they had 4 scholarship kickers. Not punters and kickers, just kickers. They kept missing on kids, so they kept giving out scholleys. Why did they do this? Because EXTRA POINTS AND FIELD GOALS COUNT TOWARD YOUR SCORE!
I suppose it is a fail, but it is not realistic. The best programs in the country sometimes have kicking issues because you don't know what is going to happen when they step on the field. Iowa gives out 4 year scholarships, so as long the kid keeps his nose clean, you can't really "get rid of him." When it doesn't work, it's not like you can just, not have a kicker or punter. Who could have ever guessed that Mullings wouldn't be able to ever get a punt off in less than 10 seconds. The coaches probably thought the same thing I did. "That seems very correctable." It sucks that they have wasted scholarships on Mullings and Mossbrucker, but that is no different than any other position on the field. You're going to miss sometimes. I would rather they "waste" another scholarship on Cornbrath, than hope Mullings figures it out. Going into next year I think they have two scholarship punters and one scholarship kicker?
If anybody wants to talk about wasting scholarships on kickers, talk to some of the Clone fans on this board. I don't think I am exaggerating when I say there was a time when they had 4 scholarship kickers. Not punters and kickers, just kickers. They kept missing on kids, so they kept giving out scholleys. Why did they do this? Because EXTRA POINTS AND FIELD GOALS COUNT TOWARD YOUR SCORE!
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ssckelley
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You make some good points vosov. One of the toughest positions to recruit is place kicker, it is one thing to see a kid at a high school game kick one after another in front of the home town fans but it is another to kick in front of 70k+ fans in a tight game where a field goal can decide it. The kicking position is more mental than anything and no team can afford to put all their eggs in 1 basket. Even an All Pro kicker like David Akers can go from being an automatic to suddenly cannot make anything, at 38 years old he looks like his head is all screwed up.
Sorry, but Iowa has failed fairly miserably on this front. Teams rarely have five year scholarship kickers and punters who never contribute. If it happens, then it usually means a freshman is just insanely good and he jumps a capable guy who was waiting his turn. That guy then should transfer.
Beyond that, you have walk-ons or other position guys for emergencies.
Basically, a coach really screwed the pooch with the M&M's. Probably some guy who really knows absolutely nothing about kicking.
Anybody come to mind?
Beyond that, you have walk-ons or other position guys for emergencies.
Basically, a coach really screwed the pooch with the M&M's. Probably some guy who really knows absolutely nothing about kicking.
Anybody come to mind?
Ferentz has always felt that kickers are extremely important to his style of play. I agree that sometimes it would be better to have an extra skill guy or two instead of 2-3 scholarship guys.
Ferentz doesn't feel that way, he might be right or he might be wrong. I'm not a Div. 1 caoch.
Everyone would be screaming if he didnt continue to bring guys in when one is not working out. As posted above it is a position that is pretty much a head thing. As I recall Mossberger was very highly touted coming in. But he never seemed the same after he didnt get the call to kick the game winner against PSU. when he was a young kicker. Was very upset on the sideline. Sometimes kids work out sometimes they dont. Its kind of like employees
I see what you are saying but the mature and ability to deal with issues when you are a young kid who is playing at that kind of level and to be passed over is heart breaking. He either handles it with class and continues to work hard he may or may not take the job again but he can cause competition which still helps the team or he caves and just muddles along taking up a scholarship.
But on the other hand, if an employee can't see and understand why they were passed over for a job/promotion or whatever there is probably three possible explanations. First, they are a bad employee, they need cut lose anyways. Second, not the most qualified candidate for the position, continue to grow as an employee and work harder. Third, corporate B.S. and they need to find a new company.
Unfortunately in college football it isn't easy to find a new place to play unless (for the most part) you want to take a step down to Div. 1-AA or sit out a year. Most of the time in the job market people can find a job with equivilent pay and benefits, if not then they are probably a bad employee or need to move because the job market blows.
Maybe he wouldn't be a "walk-on" if there weren't a plethora of kickers already. Recruiting busts hurt and the sting lingers on for whole time they are there. In many peoples eyes even after they are gone, because they can't let it go.
Actually, this wasn't the case before. Nate and Murray both worked out. Mossbrucker just didn't. As I said earlier giving a scholarship to a kicker that doesn't work out is a fail. But those things happen. Giving out a second is really bad. So, the Mossbrucker thing is regrettable, but those things will happen. Mullins on top of Mossbrucker just sucks.
Now, that being said, the Mossbrucker issue is resolved.
Would be nice if we could find Mullins a nice D-2 program to go finish his degree. Seems like there must be a nice CA program where he could hang out on the beach, woo the hotties with his Aussie accent, and have a couple of extra beats before he had to get his kicks away.
