greenspade21
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Playing fast......Fran needs to relook at his style. Poor/quick shots put us in bad positions.
More emphasis on defense and less on
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sportstalent
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Defense is what has won a talent deficient roster of games in the last two years. The Iowa players have forgotten this.
Also, I have said in every loss this year and the past two seasons have came down to shot selection. Just because a player is wide open, it isn't always a good shot. Quick 3's with no rebounder after a turnover are horrible shots. Shots less than 10 seconds into the shot clock down two possessions or more, unless it is a wide open layup or dunk are horrible shots.
Ball movement and shot selection are simple concepts that are complex for some Iowa players.
Also, I have said in every loss this year and the past two seasons have came down to shot selection. Just because a player is wide open, it isn't always a good shot. Quick 3's with no rebounder after a turnover are horrible shots. Shots less than 10 seconds into the shot clock down two possessions or more, unless it is a wide open layup or dunk are horrible shots.
Ball movement and shot selection are simple concepts that are complex for some Iowa players.
SterlingWarriorHawk
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I was more disappointed in the belief that we needed to sit in the zone. It worked against Wisky for awhile Saturday, BUT Minny (at one point) was 10-14 from 3 pt land. So my question is, Why stay in the zone so long?
biasedHAWKEYE
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Playing fast has nothing to do with not playing D.
When Iowa plays it's best D, it actually corresponds with playing the fastest...when Iowa's D is clicking, the transition offense really works.
Iowa's speed game starts and ends on defense. Play better D and open up the transition offense.
When Iowa plays it's best D, it actually corresponds with playing the fastest...when Iowa's D is clicking, the transition offense really works.
Iowa's speed game starts and ends on defense. Play better D and open up the transition offense.
sportstalent
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Great when they go in...
I guess I don't understand how you're best player taking a wide open 3 can be considered a bad shot.
McNutt7gets6
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We have no half court offense - we have to play fast
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WaterboyHawkeye
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I wouldn't consider a Marble 3, 5 seconds into the shot clock a quality shot. Shoots only like 33%.
tksirius
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I thought you were going to say: "More emphasis on defense and less on social media."
glidinghawk
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Wow, the Hawks gave up 74 points in the last 27:45 of the game. That translates to 2.7 points per minute.
What's his percentage on wide open 3's? People for some reason think its a guarantee that we will get a good look if we wait. Sometimes you can do better than a wide open 3 and sometimes you end up jacking up a contested 3 to beat the buzzer.
1977Hawkeye
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IMO, an open shot is not a bad shot simply because it comes 5-10 seconds into the shot clock. If it's one of your good shooters, it comes in the flow of the offense, and you have rebounders in place, I say fire away.
The shots that bug me is if someone takes an early shot that is contested or from WAY behind the line. You can get shots like that any time you want them. I also feel it's a bad shot if there is nobody underneath for the rebound, like if someone pulls up for a jumper on a 1-on-3 fast break. You miss, and the ball goes back to your opponent.
glidinghawk
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Marble tried to do too much late in the game last night. He was trying to create shots off the dribble, but got surrounded by defenders or a single defender did well in staying in front of him. But he forced it. The results were three turnovers down the stretch - in the crunch.
In his defense, one of the times he lost the ball it looked like he was trying to pass it. Penetrating and dishing was a good idea. Just poorly executed.
NEIChawk
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When does it get to the point in the game, especially when you're down 2 and have the ball, a chance to tie, or even take the lead, do you chuck up a 3 instead of working for a better shot? We had several chances late in the game once we got w/in striking distance to tie or take the lead....we lost the ball, or got called for an offensive foul (i.e.Gabe)...I have to agree that Fran & players need to recognize that in crucial times in the game. We had the upper hand, we clawed back and then gave it away...Do players get caught up in the moment and kind if lose their mind, or are they trying too hard sometimes? I think a little of both....What kind of game is Fran trying to run? Run-n-gun? Half court offense? Or a combination of both? I suppose each game/opponent is different. Personally, I like the up-tempo, but I also like the slower version....run some clock off, work the ball, and get some better looks then like the end of the game last night....
dwh5er
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I see this argument in just about every thread any more. My question then is why do the analysts (I remember Van Gundy in particular) talk about how good iowa is in the half court? Dakich is always talking about how we are running Marble and/or White on those curls in the lane and how hard it is to stop.
I just don't know who to believe... Men who have made a profession from their knowledge of the game or all the blowhards on the internet who obviously missed their calling in life.
Can anybody out there enlighten me here?
McNutt7gets6
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You watch the games - so how do you think the half court offense looks? More often then not IMO it looks pathetic.
