Miller: These Hawkeyes Are Easy to Love (Post Ohio State)

The last two Iowa teams almost beat Ohio State and Illinois also. Home court in the Big Ten (and college basketball) is a big deal. Hell Iowa didn't get blow out that often at home under Lick.

Slow down there, superstar...

There is a huge difference between Fran's non-blowouts and Lick's non-blowouts.

In Lick's non-blowouts, we were usually down about 24 points, the other team would let up significantly (if not totally), and we would close the gap to 12 in the final minutes, with no real chance of winning at any single time in the game.

Fran's non-blowouts have been competitive games for 40 minutes thus far. We are leading or within striking distance for most of the game.

You can see it watching the games. Being competitive throughout the game makes the games fun to watch. It may take 2 or 3 years, but I am confident that Fran will coach winning basketball at Iowa. I am excited about Iowa basketball again, which means a lot to me.
 
Slow down there, superstar...

There is a huge difference between Fran's non-blowouts and Lick's non-blowouts.

In Lick's non-blowouts, we were usually down about 24 points, the other team would let up significantly (if not totally), and we would close the gap to 12 in the final minutes, with no real chance of winning at any single time in the game.

Fran's non-blowouts have been competitive games for 40 minutes thus far. We are leading or within striking distance for most of the game.

You can see it watching the games. Being competitive throughout the game makes the games fun to watch. It may take 2 or 3 years, but I am confident that Fran will coach winning basketball at Iowa. I am excited about Iowa basketball again, which means a lot to me.

Like the Illinois game where we were down 19 in the second half?
 
Like the Illinois game where we were down 19 in the second half?
And then Iowa showed reserve (like every game this year) and went on a huge run to get it close again. As in, chance to win close, not 15 pts to make it respectable close.

Completely different than last year. Not even comparable.
 
And then Iowa showed reserve (like every game this year) and went on a huge run to get it close again. As in, chance to win close, not 15 pts to make it respectable close.

Completely different than last year. Not even comparable.

+1. The same Illinois game where we cut it to 8 in the second half and had May on the line for 2 and the ball because of an intentional foul. Best case scenario we could have had it down to a 3 point game but we all know what happened.

This team is growing and improving and I truly think that we will be a team that will be dangerous of knocking teams off as the year goes on and in the Big 10 tourney. Im not saying that we are gonna run the table in Indy in early March. We could be one of those teams that the favorites dont want to play.
 
And then Iowa showed reserve (like every game this year) and went on a huge run to get it close again. As in, chance to win close, not 15 pts to make it respectable close.

Completely different than last year. Not even comparable.

Lickliter's teams didn't make comebacks. This year's team seems to pull itself back up and fight its way back into the game every time it gets down. We just need to work on not digging ourselves those holes to begin with.

It's not like our opponents have been chopped liver the last two games.
 
I agree with bcl that "comebacks" happened in both regimes but one big difference between the two is that under Lickliter we slowed down the game and every possession became more important. Statistically over the long run you'll eventually get make a few 3's in a row which will get you back in the game without necessarily playing better basketball. And actually streaks of 3's caused all the comebacks you cited (Michigan State last year, Justin Johnson v Indiana, 4 3's on a streak in your NU link, 1 3 away from school record on OSU game, last 4 fg's against BC were 3's, shot 44% on 3 vs VT.)

This year we don't have a stalled offense and jack 3's to comeback but we play at a faster pace and run an offense and still comeback.
 
Zombie BB no longer rules at Iowa.
I would have loved to have May and Cully out there to give us depth. Frosh like Marble and Mel are just not ready to play huge minutes in the league,and more bodies wouild have helped avoid the second half drought.

This team just feels like there is hope in the future,unlike last year.
But we still need an infusion of talent,which I trust Fran will get the next couple of years.
 
bcl20, again what your failing to realize is that it's much easier to keep a game snug when you limit possessions and play keep away (Lickliter) than it is when your running and gunning with top teams. Had Lickliter tried to run and gun, Iowa would have been blown out by 30+ every game.
 
At some point in time, moral victories aren't enough to cut it. This isn't one of those times, and won't be one of those seasons...for the not cutting it part, that is.

Sure, the coaches and players won't want any talk of moral victories while they are in the midst of a challenging rebuilding year in a Big Ten conference that is as talented and deep as it's been in two decades. But sometime this spring and summer, they can look back on games like Tuesday night's 73-68 loss to the 2nd ranked team in the nation and see it as progress.

This wasn't a pyrrhic 43-36 win against Michigan State back in the Lickliter era. This was an Iowa team that led 35-29 at the break, then a team that surrendered a 29-10 run to start the second half, including a 16-0 run somewhere in the middle of the second stanza.

Iowa was down 13 points and on it's way to being another hunk of roadkill on Ohio State's schedule to date.

Yet, the Hawks didn't quit and they kept attacking. Three-point shots started to fall. Iowa came all the way back to get the game to within three points at 71-68. That's when Ohio State was somehow able to call a timeout as opposed to some kind of turnover that should have been called, and after the timeout they were able to get a point blank look and converted.

That was the game, but it was not the story.

Melsahn Basabe led Iowa with a career best 22 points, matching likely All American Ohio State forward Jared Sullinger's 24. Sullinger had 12 rebounds, Basabe had 13. Sullinger had one block, Basabe had six, including two rejections of Sullinger. On balance and on the whole, you can say Iowa's freshman Basabe outplayed Ohio State's freshman Sullinger, who has won the Big Ten's freshman of the week honor seven of the eight weeks its been awarded this year. Basable had 16 at the break; his previous career best was 14.

Jarryd Cole and Matt Gatens each scored 14 for Iowa, and Bryce Cartwright added 10 with 8 assists but also 6 of Iowa's 16 turnovers. Devyn Marble went scoreless in 24 minutes starting for the injured Eric May who did not not play; he averages 11.2 points per game for Iowa.

Iowa attempted 59 shots in this game, more than Ohio State. Again, this was an entertaining game to watch and given where this program is coming from over the past three years, that's something.

Though I was not at the game, you could feel the fans trying to will this team to a win, something that was commonplace in Carver Hawkeye Arena for 75% of my life. It's fun to see and hear that, and it's fun to watch Iowa basketball with a sense of optimism, even against the best teams in the nation.

For most of my life, I never, ever felt like Iowa was out of a basketball game until the clock showed 00:00...until the last four years.

14 games into the Fran McCaffery era, and even though Iowa is 7-7 and likely headed for another dismal season record-wise, that apathy has been washed away. I am probably an easy mark on that front, as I look for reasons to be optimistic. Heck, I even found some during the Lickliter era, but that was fool's Hawkeye Gold.

There is a long road ahead, but it feels good to feel good again related to Iowa basketball. It feels good to watch a group of players, down two of their top six performers in May and Cully Payne, take the #2 ranked team to the final buzzer, unwilling to give in.

It might be a different story when this team visits Columbus in a few weeks; I am sure it will be. But Iowa is proving that when you visit Carver Hawkeye Arena, you take off a half mentally at your own peril. That's what Ohio State did on Tuesday night; they were going through the motions in the first half, expecting their extreme talent advantage to be the difference.

They ran into a team that is still on the rise, one that is still a long way from restoring the pride this program has lost over the past decade, but one that believes in itself and the style its head coach employs.

This is easy basketball to get behind and support.

great article Jon. I agree, I see a future here and hope in developing what we have. More then I could say with Lick. I just didn't get what he was trying to do. I can see it here. And heck, if we can get a few here and there then this season won't be too bad. I for one see a bright future as of now. I like how the kids are playing but you can see lack of experience.
 
Lickliter's teams didn't make comebacks. This year's team seems to pull itself back up and fight its way back into the game every time it gets down. We just need to work on not digging ourselves those holes to begin with.

It's not like our opponents have been chopped liver the last two games.

Freshman are like kids playing with ADHD. They lack focus on the defensive end sometimes and move too quickly on offense. Experience is the best medication and we are making progress each and everytime. Ok so now someone blast me for using a a horrible synonym/analogy. LOL
 
Geez at the begining of the year we were not only working in a new system but our best and most consistent perimeter shooter was out, it also took him awhile to get that stroke back. If Gatens is absolutely healthy and this is year 2 or 3 with McCaffery, we would've gone 10-2/11-1 in non-conference. We are in no shape or form terrible.
 
That was a very good Ohio State team. Sullinger could be a good NBA player right now. I heard he was good but I hadn't seen him play until last night, and I was very impressed. They also play good D and have some other weapons on offense. I think one of the Big Ten Network analysts said they win by an average of 28 points this year or something crazy like that. But, we hung with them, and it looked like Mel outplayed Sullinger. I don't care if we were playing at home, we held our own with a team that could easily make the final four. I was just hoping to keep it under 20 before the game started. I know our record isn't impressive, but at least we aren't a complete joke. Great read Jon, I enjoyed that.
 
One player won't take us from terrible to really good unless it's Derrick Rose or something.

Iowa is not terrible, we wouldn't have went above .500 in the non-conference, play Illinois to 9 and OSU to 5, again Iowa is not terrible. I wish people would get that out of their head. Iowa is not "good" and they are not "terrible." Having all players healthy to start the season, the midset would be changed a little bit.
 
I dont think I would go that far. It would help this team be a legit spoiler in the league, and perhaps, perhaps challenge for an NIT bid...

But this team is very short on perimeter shooters...far too short to be considered 'very good' until they get more guns on board.

Couldn't say it any better than this. Payne and Gatens healthy all season, Iowa would simply scare teams in a big way. Iowa needs more depth and shooters off the bench. McCabe provides that at times, Iowa needs more depth. Oglesby and White are both very good shooter, add them to the mix with a hopefully healthy roster from Game 1 and through the season and we have shooters.
What is important here is that Iowa was so restricted under Lickliter that we didn't really know what to expect. This roster has adjusted very well to the new style, it just stinks that we have injuries on an already short roster. I am interested to see how Iowa replaces Cole and his leadership next season and who they fill the last two scholarships with this spring. I am hoping for a big guy, similar to Basabe in build and maybe a little taller and then hopefully a PG or some athletic wing that is raw and will be redshirted and coached up.
Basabe and Sullinger nullified each other last night, the difference in the game was my ultimate fear: David Lighty, I don't think he misses when he plays Iowa. Letting Diebler get loose in the 16-0 run really hurt as well. When Iowa can get the depth to run guys off the bench that will go all out defensively, we are going to win a ton of games. Don't be surprised if it is next season.
 
The simple fact that this thread is 5 pages long shows that apathy is no longer associated with the fanbase and Iowa basketball!! People care again about Iowa hoops because they see a much improved (and improving) product on the floor!! I feel about like I did in the mid 70's when Lute arrived and took us to the promised land a few years later. The lights so bright I have to wear shades!!!
 
The simple fact that this thread is 5 pages long shows that apathy is no longer associated with the fanbase and Iowa basketball!! People care again about Iowa hoops because they see a much improved (and improving) product on the floor!! I feel about like I did in the mid 70's when Lute arrived and took us to the promised land a few years later. The lights so bright I have to wear shades!!!

Great point!!!

Plus in this thread you only really have one poster on here trying to make the argument that we are terrible (which of course we are not). It is nice having the fan base united behind a coach, instead of being fractured into factions as it was under Alford and Lick.
 
Great point!!!

Plus in this thread you only really have one poster on here trying to make the argument that we are terrible (which of course we are not). It is nice having the fan base united behind a coach, instead of being fractured into factions as it was under Alford and Lick.

And even the dude who thinks we're terrible still thinks we are heading in the right direction.
 
And even the dude who thinks we're terrible still thinks we are heading in the right direction.

Sooooo.... since you're a stat guy, you do realize at this time last year we were 5-9?? And that was with Fuller, Tucker, Payne, and Cougill all healthy.
 
Sooooo.... since you're a stat guy, you do realize at this time last year we were 5-9?? And that was with Fuller, Tucker, Payne, and Cougill all healthy.

bcl is just in denial. By midway thru the Big 10 season he will be shouting "we aren't terrible" from the rooftops.
 
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