Miller is Right: It's all about Recruiting

ChosenChildren said:
The feeling, I assure you, is mutual. About 5 of you clowns have highjacked this board. I guess that is what happens when a team has a losing season.

Miller's analysis is correct. You ought to think about it occasionally.

I will say one thing; you guys are great comedians. It is a shame you can't get paid for it.
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Oh, I get paid, I assure you.

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The problems are not mutually exclusive - insufficient talent + unimaginative/sleep-inducing/predictable play calling = 4-8 season, near the bottom in major offensive categories. Things will improve if either or both get better. Otherwise, a rinse and repeat of this year for 2013.
 
unless you recruit a Top class like a Texas, Alabama, USC or Ohio St... it's irrelevant with the offensive philosophy (and I use the term loosely) Ferentz embraces.

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OP, I understand what you are saying to a point, but with such a major falloff in production are you saying you are happy with the direction our offense seems to be going?

I understand also that we have never thus far recruited for it, BUT,...1) does it currently appear that adaptations can be made to fit the current personel on the field? (do we wait 3 years for GD's "players" to develop)?... 2) is this really an offense to hang yout hat on that will bring in "playmaker" recruits going forward?

McNutt was good last year, but he wasn't that indispensable for our numbers to be so dramatically affected. You don't directly mention your support for or against replacing GD. Are you in favor or against this?
 
ChosenChildren said:
He didn't have McNutt this year. That made a huge difference. We were 4-2 when two of our best offensive linemen went down and our best running back. That made a huge difference as well.

There wasn't enough talent on the team to fill those gaps and you have a QB with no mobility; no threat to run.

I still think it comes back to talent or the lack thereof.
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I think bringing up McNutt has proven what this whole thread is about. Put in perspective that "Iowa's all time best WR & record holder" couldn't even make an NFL roster spot. Iowa has a problem recruiting speed and the coaches have a problem in trusting the players to make plays & taking chances. KF is too calculating at times. Just take chances.
 
Lack of talent did help murder the 2012 season. On the DL. It's a well known fact for anyone who has paid attention to Iowa football in the KF era that when the DL doesn't get pressure the defense is average.
Gerp Davis is the reason the offense never had a chance to pick up the slack and that's why there will be no bowl tickets in our stockings this year.
 
ChosenChildren said:
He didn't have McNutt this year. That made a huge difference. We were 4-2 when two of our best offensive linemen went down and our best running back. That made a huge difference as well.

There wasn't enough talent on the team to fill those gaps and you have a QB with no mobility; no threat to run.

I still think it comes back to talent or the lack thereof.
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We were 4-2, playing an incredibly soft schedule. The talent level is down some, but so was the rest of the league..
Our level of coaching right now is far lower than our talent level..If you didn't see that Saturday and throughout this past season...This team, with this schedule, could have went 4-8 without coaches on the sideline.
 
blubberhawk;990253[B[B said:
]]We were 4-2, playing an incredibly soft schedule[/B][/B]. The talent level is down some, but so was the rest of the league..
Our level of coaching right now is far lower than our talent level..If you didn't see that Saturday and throughout this past season...This team, with this schedule, could have went 4-8 without coaches on the sideline.
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We should have been 6-0 at that point.
 
ChosenChildren said:
It was not the system this year; it was the players. We didn't have enough good ones, particularly at the skill positions.

It is not the system; it is the players.
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The only way these statements are true is if we couldn't get more wins with the old system. Most would call you a liar if you say we wouldn't get more wins in the other system. Execution under KF has always been a problem. It was just amplified with this horrible system
 
The Hawks can win running a pro-style offense, but Davis had 1 highlight the entire season, the 3rd down running play that beat N. Ill. other than that it was a total disaster and Ferentz made a horrible decision in hiring him. We need a need a new cooridinator that can actually surprise people and make adjustments at half, there has to be a young Bill Snyder out there, hell I would even take an old Bill Snyder right now!
 
What a story Bill Snyder is. He's successful years ago then retires. A new coach comes in & the program doesn't thrive & is stagnet for a few years. What is he 90 or something. He comes back & creates a powerhouse again. All while doing this at Kansas St which is a recruiting whore. Talking about proving yourself as a great head coach! I was going to start a thread on him weeks ago. Just impressive as _ell!
 
ColoradoHAWKEYE said:
OP, I understand what you are saying to a point, but with such a major falloff in production are you saying you are happy with the direction our offense seems to be going?

I understand also that we have never thus far recruited for it, BUT,...1) does it currently appear that adaptations can be made to fit the current personel on the field? (do we wait 3 years for GD's "players" to develop)?... 2) is this really an offense to hang yout hat on that will bring in "playmaker" recruits going forward?
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Let's not kid ourselves into thinking Greg Davis is (or was ever) planning to be at Iowa long enough for a full 4-year recruiting/development cycle.
 
You can play whatever system you want, Iowa is behind everyone else. With that being said, when I see Tanner Miller, Tom Donatell and Greg Castillo as 3 of the starting back 4 on defense, recruiting or lack there of is without a doubt the problem at Iowa.
 
eveningnewsteam said:
You can play whatever system you want, Iowa is behind everyone else. With that being said, when I see Tanner Miller, Tom Donatell and Greg Castillo as 3 of the starting back 4 on defense, recruiting or lack there of is without a doubt the problem at Iowa.
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+1. I look at our defense, and I see an awful lot of white guys out there. Now I realize there are exceptions to the rule, but that doesn't usually add up to an athletic football team. This is one of those things that could have gone under the "Ok, I'll say it" thread that was started a few weeks back. During our game against Michigan a couple weeks ago, the TV analyst said "Iowa just doesn't have the speed". Yep, talent is a problem.

But I tend to think people always try to look for that ONE reason why a team didn't win, but I think there are multiple reasons for where we are where we are right now. Lack of talent being one of them. Recruiting inconsistency is part of it, but so also is the amount of attrition we've seen the past few years IMO. After watching a season of this offense under Greg Davis, I'm also convinced that the scheme is not going to be very explosive. ESPECIALLY with our current lack of talent.
 
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ThunderHawk said:
Oh, there's a reason. And whatever it is, it should terrify all of us.
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I think there is a very good reason. Rudock won't be starting next year either, and the guy that will be is redshirting. That shouldn't necessarily be a cause for concern or happiness.
 
It's time for a change in Iowa City. I don't care how you slice it or dice it. No more excuses for Kirk. The program is headed south -- in a big way. Kirk is NOT going to right the ship. It is too late. The ISUs, Northwestern's, Purdues, etc., have passed us by. Barta should get kicked to the curb for offering such a ridiculous contract. It has come to the point I don't even want to hear the excuses any more: players leaving, too slow, too passive, 2009 recruiting class, etc., etc. These all point to one problem: Kirk. He calls the shots. If we are too slow? Kirk. Players leaving? Kirk. Average assistants? Kirk. It's all on Kirk ...
 
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