Miller: And Then It Was Over

The description of the first four losses said it all. Comfortable leads were lost. Good teams can finish games. Examining and correcting what went wrong at the end of games is essential.
 


Scooby said:
But they will also be remembered to taking that stink, fumigate Carver-Hawkeye Arena, and have the fans return to see some, at time, exciting basketball, in Iowa City.
On the football side, I remember players like Aaron Kampman, who helped resurge the football program.
Basabe, Marble and McCabe will be remembered for be a part of the turnaround.
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This season will only be seen as a "turn around" if success continues into next season. (the reality is that last season was better.)
 


hawkinn3 said:
I don't understand how anyone can view this season as anything but a complete failure of every player and coach. We clearly had a very good team that should of been looking at a deep tournament run and then around 6 weeks ago, something happened. I have no idea what it was but Fran lost all control of the team and ceased making any rational decisions in regard to rotations and the players quit. Overtime last night was a microcosm of the whole season, the team quit. I can't recall an Iowa team in any sport I was more disappointed in than this team (maybe the "fat cat" football team but they didn't have the level of talent this team did). I am not looking forward to next season, we won't be better and it is time for another rebuild.
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I have to agree with you. I felt much better about our program after last season..
 


hawkinn3 said:
I don't understand how anyone can view this season as anything but a complete failure of every player and coach. We clearly had a very good team that should of been looking at a deep tournament run and then around 6 weeks ago, something happened. I have no idea what it was but Fran lost all control of the team and ceased making any rational decisions in regard to rotations and the players quit. Overtime last night was a microcosm of the whole season, the team quit. I can't recall an Iowa team in any sport I was more disappointed in than this team (maybe the "fat cat" football team but they didn't have the level of talent this team did). I am not looking forward to next season, we won't be better and it is time for another rebuild.
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The team did not "quit". They just weren't good enough. Getting tired of that misconception.
 


I could probably live without hearing or seeing the word "microcosm" anytime soon.:eek:
 


SteveGarvey said:
The team did not "quit". They just weren't good enough. Getting tired of that misconception.
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If they aren't good enough to beat Illinois and NW, then there is a whole other world of problems. I hope they quit, because then they can maybe turn it around next year.
 


If you didn't notice - Fran was very intentional in how me mentioned the "seniors."

I don't think Fran is particularly happy with some of our other guys that we are supposed to depend on.
 


Bigtenchamp said:
If you didn't notice - Fran was very intentional in how me mentioned the "seniors."

I don't think Fran is particularly happy with some of our other guys that we are supposed to depend on.
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Fran should be thrilled, personal issues aside. He got a 300K bonus I believe for "reaching" the "tourney". What a backdoor he located on that incentive clause.
 


Everyone has a theory. I will stick to the fact that the long layoff between the Michigan game, and the Wisconsin game( 16 days - 1 game), destroyed the rythmn of the offense and defense,and the season. The falling beam at IU is the real symbol of this season. Thanks, IU!

Nobody quit on this team. Their tanks were just depleted and teams just shot lites out from the line and the arc.
Call it bad luck or whatever. I am proud of these Hawks and the coaching staff. Just could not get over the hump this season, but we are back on Dance Card and that matters a lot. We will reap what Dev, Mel and Zach sowed....mark my words
 


hawkinn3 said:
I don't understand how anyone can view this season as anything but a complete failure of every player and coach. We clearly had a very good teamthat should of been looking at a deep tournament run and then around 6 weeks ago, something happened. I have no idea what it was but Fran lost all control of the team and ceased making any rational decisions in regard to rotations and the players quit. Overtime last night was a microcosm of the whole season, the team quit. I can't recall an Iowa team in any sport I was more disappointed in than this team (maybe the "fat cat" football team but they didn't have the level of talent this team did). I am not looking forward to next season, we won't be better and it is time for another rebuild.
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What would indicate a very good team? I think we were a good team that rode the momentum of a pretty good non conference schedule into a good road win at an overrated OSU. Our best win was the big win over Michigan at home. But most teams have a big upset win in a season. Even Lick's teams managed to do this.

Too many fans got caught up be the so-called experts making proclamations mid year instead of letting the season unfold.
 


JHHawk said:
Everyone has a theory. I will stick to the fact that the long layoff between the Michigan game, and the Wisconsin game( 16 days - 1 game), destroyed the rythmn of the offense and defense,and the season. The falling beam at IU is the real symbol of this season. Thanks, IU!

Nobody quit on this team. Their tanks were just depleted and teams just shot lites out from the line and the arc.
Call it bad luck or whatever. I am proud of these Hawks and the coaching staff. Just could not get over the hump this season, but we are back on Dance Card and that matters a lot. We will reap what Dev, Mel and Zach sowed....mark my words
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I, too, believe the postponement of the IU game played a major role in the late season collapse.
 


JHHawk said:
Everyone has a theory. I will stick to the fact that the long layoff between the Michigan game, and the Wisconsin game( 16 days - 1 game), destroyed the rythmn of the offense and defense,and the season. The falling beam at IU is the real symbol of this season. Thanks, IU!

Nobody quit on this team. Their tanks were just depleted and teams just shot lites out from the line and the arc.
Call it bad luck or whatever. I am proud of these Hawks and the coaching staff. Just could not get over the hump this season, but we are back on Dance Card and that matters a lot. We will reap what Dev, Mel and Zach sowed....mark my words
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So they got too much rest AND were depleted? Interesting.

If it weren't for a jv quality Purdue team, they would have lost 8 in a row to end the year. That isn't depleted, that is bad.

As for other teams shooting lights out. Once is luck. Twice is a coincidence. 3 times is a trend. 8 times is just terrible defense.
 


QUOTE=hawkinn3;1289259]I don't understand how anyone can view this season as anything but a complete failure of every player and coach. We clearly had a very good team that should of been looking at a deep tournament run and then around 6 weeks ago, something happened. I have no idea what it was but Fran lost all control of the team and ceased making any rational decisions in regard to rotations and the players quit. Overtime last night was a microcosm of the whole season, the team quit. I can't recall an Iowa team in any sport I was more disappointed in than this team (maybe the "fat cat" football team but they didn't have the level of talent this team did). I am not looking forward to next season, we won't be better and it is time for another rebuild.[/QUOTE]

While everyone is entitled to their own opinion my question is were we ever really a very good team? I'm Not saying that I don't think the talent was there but could it be that we were an above average team that had a style of play that took teams longer to figure out? But once the blue print was out how to blow up our uptempo style of play and pick apart our defense, teams simply locked in and forced us to play a completely different style in which we struggled.

Not by any means a cheap shot, but were we really a very good teams once teams figured out how to play us? I honestly don't know and never will, but regardless of what led to the collapse at the end of the season the real question is did we over achieve at the beginning of the year or under achieve at the end?
 


I feel like the coaches didn't impose our tempo enough...they let other teams dictate pace....we should have pressed....pressed....and pressed some more...full court...trapping pressure defense from tip to buzzer.
 




Something happened within the team. The team has been divide since Even when united over Patrick, not united for each other. As Jon has said.

The speculation is out there as to what has happened. If true, a player shud have been kicked off the team. Fran was not able to handle this issue w players.
 


theboat said:
So they got too much rest AND were depleted? Interesting.

If it weren't for a jv quality Purdue team, they would have lost 8 in a row to end the year. That isn't depleted, that is bad.

As for other teams shooting lights out. Once is luck. Twice is a coincidence. 3 times is a trend. 8 times is just terrible defense.
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Athletes are creatures of habit. Play one game in 15 days, then 5 games in 10 days..that is not normal. You get rusty sitting, then you play rusty in game 1 of those last 5, lose close to wisky then have to go on the road for two straight road games at tough venues,..and it snowballs, and by the end of that stretch, they are depleted,physically. There is a reason that the Big Ten rarely has teams play back to back road games. If the IU game had gone off as scheduled, Iowa would not have either....you think it had no impact? You are wrong.
 


HawkeyeWalker said:
Good take Jon.

Tough year, but its kinda nice to have lofty expectations again.

Marble will be missed but overall I think skill level will be up next year.

This team was oh so close so many times.

Thanks Seniors ! Lots of solid memories Wild Bull, Slime, and RDM !!!!
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Very nice HawkeyeWalker.....

:rolleyes:
 






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