McCabe has to stop shooting so much

[WindsorHawk]

Don't care so much about how many shot attempts McCabe is taking, more concerned about why Oglesby isn't taking many more. Fran can't find a way to get him open more? I don't get it.

I watch JO a lot during games...working to get open. He's constantly being held/mugged/bumped. It's away from the action and almost never called. More fouls get called on our guys setting the screen when he finally gets away.

 

[HawkIPA]

The title of this thread should have been, "Why is Fran playing McCabe so much"

A couple points:

1) Someone had stated their concern for Oglewinkels lack of shooting. FYI - kid can't get off a shot if they are playing man D. It doesn't matter how many screens you set for him or how many curls he runs. If his feet aren't square to the basket and a wideopen look, kid doesn't pull the trigger. When he does (rare), it's usually some type of one footed fade away. He is a phenomenal spot up shooter...probably one of the best in the country. He is a zone buster at it's finest.

2) McCabe has the green light. Don't know why but he does. Shots do need to head towards the rim during a game but he's not the one that should be pulling the trigger. When the ball gets in his hands, which it does frequently, he is either going to bullrush the post defender and get his **** handed to him (or charge) or if he is on the wing, a shot is going up.

Let's ask ourselves this one question about the # of open looks that McCabe is getting shall we? Have you ever played hoops and the opposing team has a player that really isn't that good offensively? Do you guard him tight or do you leave him with a window of opportunity to launch a shot that has a low probability of going in?

We are not a good 3-pt shooting team. Our advantage on the offensive (and defensive) end is our height. For some inexplicable reason we choose not to take full-advantage of this. Get the G-Damn ball inside or settle for mid-range jumpers. Keep pumping the ball to the post and get shorter, less deep teams in foul trouble. Keep dumping the damn ball inside until we can't dump any more. Then, once the opponent is forced to play ZONE against our bigger players, pop ol' Oglewinkel in the game and let him launch a few wide-open 3's and bust the game wideopen. Once they switch to man, dump the ball inside some more.

And run....just keep running, running, running.

Iowa is 121st out of 351 Division 1 teams in 3 point FG %. That is a pretty good number and our percentage is 35.8% which is higher than ISU's, who many would consider a good 3 point shooting team but that is because of the volume of 3's they take and make.

Most of your other points I agree with, sans the mandatory dig at JO you must put in every post. Iowa had success in B1G play by running, pounding the ball inside and attempting a low number of 3's per game. Without going through all the box scores, it seemed like Iowa only shot about 10-15 3's per game in their conference victories.

 

[sportstalent]

Oh where does it end?

Iowa has to work to get better shots period.

It isn't just one guy like always.

You want yo question someone...ask White why he didn't make the extra pass to Oglesby who was wide open and White took a deep 3? Just one that sticks out.

I preach shot selection and ball movement all the time. Work to get a better shot, not the first okay shot.

 

[ibahawkeye]

I watch JO a lot during games...working to get open. He's constantly being held/mugged/bumped. It's away from the action and almost never called. More fouls get called on our guys setting the screen when he finally gets away.

Every shooter deals with this... stop making excuses.

 

[LASBUR]

I talked to a guy at the Il & OSU game and he said its terrible how they push pull shove him. Im going Sat that is one thing I will watching

 

[libradawg]

Oh where does it end?

Iowa has to work to get better shots period.

It isn't just one guy like always.

You want yo question someone...ask White why he didn't make the extra pass to Oglesby who was wide open and White took a deep 3? Just one that sticks out.

I preach shot selection and ball movement all the time. Work to get a better shot, not the first okay shot.

McCabe is involved in a lot of the ones that are just one guy, lol. It's not just that he had 0-7, 0-8, 1-8 against ISU, @ and vs OSU respectively, it's that he went 0-5 from deep twice and the other one 1-6. Even when he has no business shooting he launches the most threes in backup minutes than anybody else can manage to throw up there. Which is funny because other than Marble it seems to me like we have the opposite problem more. People passing up shots.

If we're going to be a run and gun team, might as well make the shots quick as well if they're open. In the game the other night we beat them 15-4 in Offensive Rebounds. How? LONG REBOUNDS FROM MISSED THREES! Even if we don't make the shot, those 3-ball caroms are always very screwy. I say we get a shooting friendly lineup a ton of minutes. Gesell-Oglesby-Marble-Uthoff-Olaseni. Mix and match White and McCabe. Basabe and Woodbury will still be in that original lineup at some point.

 

[libradawg]

I talked to a guy at the Il & OSU game and he said its terrible how they push pull shove him. Im going Sat that is one thing I will watching

Yeah, that's how OSU plays defense. If it isn't getting called then good luck, but by all means do it yourself if they are. Craft was almost perfect from the floor; nobody tapped him. And you do not need to attend the game to see how they're defending people. If I saw every Holding go unflagged against Matt Roth then I think I can see if people are grabbing fistfuls of Oglesby just as easy.

 

[WindsorHawk]

Every shooter deals with this... stop making excuses.

Is this the part where you send me to my room? Watch something other than the ball during a game and you might learn something about how basketball is played. Never mind. It's clearly way over your head.

 

[MiniMoeHawk]

McCabe needs to take better shots but he needs to keep shooting. He has a solid stroke when he has an open look. He just needs to slow down and find an open guy to pass to instead of trying to force a drive through the lane when the shot isn't there

 

[ibahawkeye]

Is this the part where you send me to my room? Watch something other than the ball during a game and you might learn something about how basketball is played. Never mind. It's clearly way over your head.

The problem is that when you're watching off the ball you forget to take off your black and gold glasses.

Just silly to act like Josh is the only shooter that deals with the holds.

Gatens dealt with the same issue but he was productive. Granted josh still has a year to reach that level but I'm pretty confident saying he won't reach the level Matt was playing at his senior year

 

[glidinghawk]

McCabe needs to take better shots but he needs to keep shooting. He has a solid stroke when he has an open look. He just needs to slow down and find an open guy to pass to instead of trying to force a drive through the lane when the shot isn't there

I don't mind McCabe taking wide open threes. But I agree that his rushing of shots is an issue, and he rushed a couple of them against the Buckeyes. Also, if I recall correctly, he jacked up a couple of them from about 3 feet behind the line, and that's not his range.

 

[SpiderRico]

I don't mind McCabe taking wide open threes. But I agree that his rushing of shots is an issue, and he rushed a couple of them against the Buckeyes. Also, if I recall correctly, he jacked up a couple of them from about 3 feet behind the line, and that's not his range.

I mind him taking them. He's 6 for freaking 25 in B1G play. This isn't a slump. This is a guy who is not capable of making shots against average to good teams. He made his living earlier this year against scrub teams who couldn't guard my grandma. In 5 of our losses (ISU, Wisky, Mich, MSU and OSU), he is a combined 2-14 from 3. That's 14%.

So forgive me if I don't want a guy to shoot who has demonstrated over the last 2 years that he can't shoot against decent teams. His role should be getting rebounds, roughing up the other team, and getting the ball to the guys on our team who can score (he's demonstrated he's a pretty decent passer).

 

[libradawg]

Let me tell you a little story about a team I call Not Illinois. It goes like this: What is 0-3-4-0-8-2-4-4? McCabe's point totals since ISU came calling shortly followed by conference play. His only decent games have involved Illinois teams which all involved 21-point leads. Yes, even though Illini came back apparently the huge lead vs mediocrity alone was enough for McCabe to hit a 3-ball. It's not that never once in those 8 was he able to connect on more than *ONE* three-ball, it's that his shot total goes like 4-2-2-5-3-1-3-6. That's 3 makes, 26 attempts, with a 1-6 fresh off the OSU game.

Look, he's either desperate, selfish or stupid. Neither of which are incredibly good for a SENIOR. Especially with a Sophomore off the bench who is better at every aspect and attribute of the exact same positions and scenarios McCabe was supposed to fill this year. Uthoff has slumped, but guess what? He blocks shots, rebounds, finds scoring opportunities in spots McCabe is unable to.

Which leads me to the biggest problem. It's not that McCabe wants to shoot himself out of a slump, it's that his entire wiring is absolutely WRONG for this offense. Our half court is no different than our transition game; we send guys running around all day. Even with a miss we have hurt their ability to have legs to match out depth. That's why quick shots suck even if they look open. In McCabe's case, history proves even nobody else on the court gives him a 1-3 chance. That adds up.

 

[volhawk50]

If he's going to quit shooting 3's, he needs to stop playing altogether. If he's going to keep getting in the game, he needs to keep shooting.

 

[libradawg]

One more: What is 13-15-14? Those are Marble's MISSES during his three season high point totals. Xavier-Nova-Wisconsin 30-24-27 with an average of 14 misses in there. With the bulk Marble already misses in any given game, TWO guys doing it affords absolutely zero players an off-night.McCabe should not be shooting any more than what Uthoff has been attempting, but DEFINITELY no more than 3. But 4-5-6 misses become practical turnovers with how we do things. No, Oglesby needs a few games where he's allowed to miss. Oglesby, not McCabe, should take these. Then Uthoff. Popular sentiment wants Gesell to take on more shooting. Forget it. Not until Uthoff takes over the 6th man role.

 

[libradawg]

If he's going to quit shooting 3's, he needs to stop playing altogether. If he's going to keep getting in the game, he needs to keep shooting.

Ca-ching. He has no slashing ability nor possesses any form of dribble move. All production came from one year of perimeter stop-n-pops that went well. With Uthoff, we get McCabe's 10-5 line, make it 12-6 along with defensive attributes McCabe can't claim. Efficiency seals it.

 

[brozley]

Let me tell you a little story about a team I call Not Illinois. It goes like this: What is 0-3-4-0-8-2-4-4? McCabe's point totals since ISU came calling shortly followed by conference play. His only decent games have involved Illinois teams which all involved 21-point leads. Yes, even though Illini came back apparently the huge lead vs mediocrity alone was enough for McCabe to hit a 3-ball. It's not that never once in those 8 was he able to connect on more than *ONE* three-ball, it's that his shot total goes like 4-2-2-5-3-1-3-6. That's 3 makes, 26 attempts, with a 1-6 fresh off the OSU game.

Look, he's either desperate, selfish or stupid. Neither of which are incredibly good for a SENIOR. Especially with a Sophomore off the bench who is better at every aspect and attribute of the exact same positions and scenarios McCabe was supposed to fill this year. Uthoff has slumped, but guess what? He blocks shots, rebounds, finds scoring opportunities in spots McCabe is unable to.

Which leads me to the biggest problem. It's not that McCabe wants to shoot himself out of a slump, it's that his entire wiring is absolutely WRONG for this offense. Our half court is no different than our transition game; we send guys running around all day. Even with a miss we have hurt their ability to have legs to match out depth. That's why quick shots suck even if they look open. In McCabe's case, history proves even nobody else on the court gives him a 1-3 chance. That adds up.

Agreed with this spot on analysis.

The problem I have is that Fran keeps putting him out there, what does that say? He played the 3rd most minutes in the game vs. OSU earlier this week. If you were McCabe, why wouldn't you keep doing what your doing to get that playing time? Does he give the edge to him because he's a senior? I hope not.

 

[MiniMoeHawk]

Agreed with this spot on analysis.

The problem I have is that Fran keeps putting him out there, what does that say? He played the 3rd most minutes in the game vs. OSU earlier this week. If you were McCabe, why wouldn't you keep doing what your doing to get that playing time? Does he give the edge to him because he's a senior? I hope not.

Fran is comfortable with McCabe since he is as tough as steel. He knows he has it in him to go off for 20 on any given night since he has done it in the past. He is one person on the team that is not lacking confidence. He has the Chris Kingsbury toughness in him. Now if only he could make a few of his shots

 

[hawkeye12345]

Fran is comfortable with McCabe since he is as tough as steel. He knows he has it in him to go off for 20 on any given night since he has done it in the past. He is one person on the team that is not lacking confidence. He has the Chris Kingsbury toughness in him. Now if only he could make a few of his shots

You do realize that McCabe hasn't scored 20 points or more in over 2 years, right?

Also - Kinsbury was a McDonalds AA, could launch it from half-court with a decent probability of it actually hitting the rim, and rarely ever sat on the bench.

 

[hawkfan33]

You do realize that McCabe hasn't scored 20 points or more in over 2 years, right?

Also - Kinsbury was a McDonalds AA, could launch it from half-court with a decent probability of it actually hitting the rim, and rarely ever sat on the bench.

Not to mention, Kingsbury didn't even sweat all the alcohol out until midway thru the second half.