Matt/other radio personalities/fans that insist Stanzi knew

Cyclones17 said:
Wrong

You play college sports? I did. You know what your teammates are doing. You will never snitch on a teammate but you know what is going on. Not only are you playing a sport with them but they become your best friends. They are your family. I highly doubt that you feel that way about any person you work with but that is how playing on a college team feels, like a family. They are the people you hang out with outside of football.
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No, I didn't play college sports. Played high school sports though, which in southern Iowa means you're on a MUCH smaller team than the Hawks. The teams I played on had between 25-40 kids, depending on the sport. I didn't know what was going on in everybody's personal life. On a team of 100+ players, it's hardly difficult to see how Stanzi might not have known. If he's not close friends with Derrell, why should he automatically know? Because he's the quarterback, or is one of the star players (which was Perrault's logic)? You don't get inside info based on star power or who you throw the ball to. You get inside info by being closer to the player in question. If Sash were to get in trouble, I'd probably be quicker to ask a guy like Tommy Donatell rather than Clayborn about what's up.
 
Cyclones17 said:
Wrong

You play college sports? I did. You know what your teammates are doing. You will never snitch on a teammate but you know what is going on. Not only are you playing a sport with them but they become your best friends. They are your family. I highly doubt that you feel that way about any person you work with but that is how playing on a college team feels, like a family. They are the people you hang out with outside of football.
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There is no way in hell you knew what all your teammates did. I played college baseball at a major university and was team captain my senior year. In baseball you only have about 25 teammates and I did not know everything about my teammates. Sure, I knew the ones that got drunk all the time and some, but not all, that liked to smoke a little, but it wasn't until after school that I found out two of my teammates had to go to rehab for hard drugs, they did a very good job of hiding it from us.

To say that someone absolutely knew is ridiculous.
 
tm3308 said:
No, I didn't play college sports. Played high school sports though, which in southern Iowa means you're on a MUCH smaller team than the Hawks. The teams I played on had between 25-40 kids, depending on the sport. I didn't know what was going on in everybody's personal life. On a team of 100+ players, it's hardly difficult to see how Stanzi might not have known. If he's not close friends with Derrell, why should he automatically know? Because he's the quarterback, or is one of the star players (which was Perrault's logic)? You don't get inside info based on star power or who you throw the ball to. You get inside info by being closer to the player in question. If Sash were to get in trouble, I'd probably be quicker to ask a guy like Tommy Donatell rather than Clayborn about what's up.
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HawkI101 said:
There is no way in hell you knew what all your teammates did. I played college baseball at a major university and was team captain my senior year. In baseball you only have about 25 teammates and I did not know everything about my teammates. Sure, I knew the ones that got drunk all the time and some, but not all, that liked to smoke a little, but it wasn't until after school that I found out two of my teammates had to go to rehab for hard drugs, they did a very good job of hiding it from us.

To say that someone absolutely knew is ridiculous.
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OK what if its put like this: Had Stanzi heard about this? Maybe he didn't know just like we didn't KNOW because we weren't there live in person. I agree with 17 I've been on plenty of teams and although I might not have known 100% see it with my owns eyes or have it on videotape know...I definitely was not deaf or dumb enough to not hear anything.

If one thing is for certain its that people talk to people, then those people talk to other people. 100 people is really not that many people especially in IC, in the athletics circles. It is extrememly hard for me to think that Stanzi or anyone else for that matter hadn't heard.
 
HawkI101 said:
There is no way in hell you knew what all your teammates did. I played college baseball at a major university and was team captain my senior year. In baseball you only have about 25 teammates and I did not know everything about my teammates. Sure, I knew the ones that got drunk all the time and some, but not all, that liked to smoke a little, but it wasn't until after school that I found out two of my teammates had to go to rehab for hard drugs, they did a very good job of hiding it from us.

To say that someone absolutely knew is ridiculous.
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Well I guess my team was closer as we knew everything that was going on. Even if you didn't hang out with someone on your team as much you knew what they were doing and who they were doing it with.
 
Cyclones17 said:
Well I guess my team was closer as we knew everything that was going on. Even if you didn't hang out with someone on your team as much you knew what they were doing and who they were doing it with.
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Of course your team was closer, they only existed in your mind (which is obviously an incredibly small place.)
 
Cyclones17 said:
Well I guess my team was closer as we knew everything that was going on. Even if you didn't hang out with someone on your team as much you knew what they were doing and who they were doing it with.
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I don't buy it. I played highschool bball, football, etc. and there were only a few that I knew everything they did. The rest were acquantances. I also played football in college and it was in a small town where there wasn't $hit to do, and you still only have your small group of people that you regularly hang out with. No way you knew what 100 other people did with every waking minute of their lives unless you are a chick and were the gossip queen of the team.
 
Rick most likely had, at the very least, 2nd hand knowledge of what was going on with DJK. They spent a ton of time together during their tenure at Iowa. Why anyone thinks that is a big deal is beyond me.
 
knighthawk13 said:
Rick most likely had, at the very least, 2nd hand knowledge of what was going on with DJK. They spent a ton of time together during their tenure at Iowa. Why anyone thinks that is a big deal is beyond me.
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ding, ding. If Howe was the insider he claims to be, he'd be aware that the two of them hung out together.

That doesnt make Rick guilty of anything but for Howe to try and say they didnt hang out and didnt have anything in common casts his credibility into doubt.
 
Cyclones17 said:
Wrong

You play college sports? I did. You know what your teammates are doing. You will never snitch on a teammate but you know what is going on. Not only are you playing a sport with them but they become your best friends. They are your family. I highly doubt that you feel that way about any person you work with but that is how playing on a college team feels, like a family. They are the people you hang out with outside of football.
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Cheerleading is considered a sport now?

You should go look up some of your old cheerleader pals - since they are your best friends/family/etc, etc. I can guarantee no one around here will ever look at you in that light, so you might as well give up and go away.
 
Imlivingthedream said:
ding, ding. If Howe was the insider he claims to be, he'd be aware that the two of them hung out together.

That doesnt make Rick guilty of anything but for Howe to try and say they didnt hang out and didnt have anything in common casts his credibility into doubt.
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Unless you know them personally how do you know they hang out together. Howe said he would personally vouch that Ricky didn't know. I continually pressed Matt if he had a source or any legitimate reason for asking that question and he had none. He was doing exactly what Rob accused him of- throwing something against the wall to see if it sticks. Guys like Howe, Morehouse, and Logue cover these guys every week, they get a feel for their personalities and they may have a real sense for what the cliques are. Matt covers them from a studio 110 miles away, has rarely interviewed any of them face to face and rarely has any idea what he is talking about when it comes to specific situations.

If you know either of them personally then that is great. I will back down and stand corrected, but since I know how hard Howe works I will take his word over yours and Matt's.
 
spudhawk said:
Unless you know them personally how do you know they hang out together. Howe said he would personally vouch that Ricky didn't know. I continually pressed Matt if he had a source or any legitimate reason for asking that question and he had none. He was doing exactly what Rob accused him of- throwing something against the wall to see if it sticks. Guys like Howe, Morehouse, and Logue cover these guys every week, they get a feel for their personalities and they may have a real sense for what the cliques are. Matt covers them from a studio 110 miles away, has rarely interviewed any of them face to face and rarely has any idea what he is talking about when it comes to specific situations.

If you know either of them personally then that is great. I will back down and stand corrected, but since I know how hard Howe works I will take his word over yours and Matt's.
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does Howe attend college parties?

does he hang out at downtown bars?

his "they have nothing is common" is as much wishful thinking and speculation on his part as anything Perraultt said.

I have several acquaintances who do work in a couple of those bars and do travel in the same circles.

and I do know one of the guys involved personally.
 
Cyclones17 said:
Wrong

You play college sports? I did. You know what your teammates are doing. You will never snitch on a teammate but you know what is going on. Not only are you playing a sport with them but they become your best friends. They are your family. I highly doubt that you feel that way about any person you work with but that is how playing on a college team feels, like a family. They are the people you hang out with outside of football.
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How do you know that you knew everything that went on?

I agree college teams are like family. But I didn't know everything that went on in my own family, and it was a lot less than 115 people.
 
spudhawk said:
Unless you know them personally how do you know they hang out together. Howe said he would personally vouch that Ricky didn't know. I continually pressed Matt if he had a source or any legitimate reason for asking that question and he had none. He was doing exactly what Rob accused him of- throwing something against the wall to see if it sticks. Guys like Howe, Morehouse, and Logue cover these guys every week, they get a feel for their personalities and they may have a real sense for what the cliques are. Matt covers them from a studio 110 miles away, has rarely interviewed any of them face to face and rarely has any idea what he is talking about when it comes to specific situations.
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Well said.

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This thread demonstrates that some people know everything that goes along in their team mates' lives and some people only had a few close team mates that they knew what was going on outside sports.

One person's experience doesn't mean it is absolute and universal for everyone else.
 
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