Mark Gronowski

kicker22 said:
With our schedule next season some would see 7 or 8 wins a success. I get your point, but as much as it pains me to say it, there's only a handful of teams that can really take a "playoff or bust mentality" going forward and Iowa isn't one of them. It can (and should) be the end goal every year, but if that's the only way we measure success as a program we are all in for a world of hurt and should probably find a new team to support with much deeper tradition and pockets.
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When it comes to expectations they are always subjective and in eye of the beholders. What they are and what they realistically should be aren't often the same. What ADs coaches and fans all think are often different.

I wonder how many yrs can go by for Iowa to not make the playoffs and not have that become a thing. Kinda like Fran and not making the sweet 16. I have a feeling we'll find out.
 
And boom goes the dynamite.

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Its encouraging, but that is far from a definitive statement. An Unnnamed source saying what he expects aint exactly Adam Shefter type stuff, but its better than nothing.
 
Hawkfnntn said:
When it comes to expectations they are always subjective and in eye of the beholders. What they are and what they realistically should be aren't often the same. What ADs coaches and fans all think are often different.

I wonder how many yrs can go by for Iowa to not make the playoffs and not have that become a thing. Kinda like Fran and not making the sweet 16. I have a feeling we'll find out.
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I guess I see it differently because I don't see Fran making the sweet 16 and making the college football playoffs being remotely on the same level in terms of how I see things. A sweet 16 appearance involves advancing through a tournament that we should be appearing in on a consistent basis. I'm not saying making it is easy, but generally .500 in conference play and a good non-conference schedule will get to around 20 wins which should put us on the bubble most years. That's basically winning 66% of our games throughout the course of a season. Where in comparison winning 66% of our games during a given football season would be going 8-4 which isn't going to sniff a play off berth and is expected by most fans.

I get the comparison but I think it's a reasonable expectation for Fran to make a sweet 16. While I think it would mean even more to the football program as I a playoff berth is a much more impressive accomplishment.
 
I think we went to the right place to get our next QB. Give him some protection and we will be a lot more balanced as a team.
 
Good pickup. Now that we've got our QB's lets get some receivers and spend some NIL money on the other side of the ball.
 
Despite what the article said, I doubt that KF handed him the starting position. This circumstance is much different than when we landed CM. Petras was being shown the door and the remaining QBs had almost no experience.

Gun to my head, I think KF said that Sully and he would start out at QB1 in the Spring while he learned the system. He would get first team reps and have every opportunity to win the job in camp, but he would have to earn it. Sully has earned a competition, IMHO. Maybe not a fully open competition, but the right to a fair shot at the starting gig. Hell, maybe he goes back to a goal line role? I just don't see KF promising the new guy the starting gig before he steps foot on campus.
 
Westernhawk said:
I'll be floored if this new guy isn't the starter. He appears to be quite a bit better than anything we have in the QB room now.

I mean, he's already projected to be "draftable" by the NFL. Not so many hawk QBs are in that category.
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I agree with everything you said, Western. They may not have promised him the starting job but I'd be shocked if he isn't under center for the first snap next season.
 
It's great to have some good news at this position.

Hell, how long has it been since we had a QB who can run and chew bubble gum (opps, I meant "and throw at the same time.") at the same time. Banks??? .......... BUT............. two QB's at the same time????? On a Iowa roster?????? This may truly be a situation where each of them drive and push the other to the top of their game.
 
kicker22 said:
I guess I see it differently because I don't see Fran making the sweet 16 and making the college football playoffs being remotely on the same level in terms of how I see things. A sweet 16 appearance involves advancing through a tournament that we should be appearing in on a consistent basis. I'm not saying making it is easy, but generally .500 in conference play and a good non-conference schedule will get to around 20 wins which should put us on the bubble most years. That's basically winning 66% of our games throughout the course of a season. Where in comparison winning 66% of our games during a given football season would be going 8-4 which isn't going to sniff a play off berth and is expected by most fans.

I get the comparison but I think it's a reasonable expectation for Fran to make a sweet 16. While I think it would mean even more to the football program as I a playoff berth is a much more impressive accomplishment.
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Yeah they aren't exactly the same level of things. I wouldn't say that. Just a similar sort of thing in the way that it should be a reasonable expectation to make the sweet 16 once in 15 yrs is to making the playoffs in a 12 team format should be once every so many yrs too.

If Iowa goes 10 yrs and never makes the playoffs that won't be good.. Granted we'll have had a coaching change by then and who the heck knows what the next 5 yrs looks like let alone beyond that. But main goal should be making the playoffs. Prior to now KF has always had winning the BIG West as priority 1 but that's obviously had to change
 
Social media is blowing up on this.

Might do people’s mental health well to remember that everyone got uber hyped about McNamara and we all know how that turned out. And CM had P4 experience.

Gronowski’s good, but FCS ain’t FBS, folks. He did all the awesome things he’s done against defensive players who weren’t good enough to play P4 football, and every defense he's ever beaten would go 0-fer in the Big Ten by a country mile. That doesn’t make him Carson Wentz.
 
Fryowa said:
Social media is blowing up on this.

Might do people’s mental health well to remember that everyone got uber hyped about McNamara and we all know how that turned out. And CM had P4 experience.

Gronowski’s good, but FCS ain’t FBS, folks. He did all the awesome things he’s done against defensive players who weren’t good enough to play P4 football, and every defense he's ever beaten would go 0-fer in the Big Ten by a country mile. That doesn’t make him Carson Wentz.
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Two things can be true at once. I think we are all okay to get excited about this kid while maintaining a healthy amount of skepticism given recent history of portal guys and the offense in general. But, we can at least say this kid is not coming off a major injury and will not be coached by Brian Ferentz. So, I think it is okay not to draw too many comparisons to CM.

At a bare minimum, this puts another experienced starting QB in the QB room, with an NFL skillset to boot. If nothing else, Lester will have options next year. On the flipside, this kid has all the physical tools to play at the next level, and dominated the level of football two steps below Iowa. While we would not expect him to dominate at this level, he may be well-situated to be highly successful given his experience level.
 
NorthKCHawk said:
Two things can be true at once. I think we are all okay to get excited about this kid while maintaining a healthy amount of skepticism given recent history of portal guys and the offense in general. But, we can at least say this kid is not coming off a major injury and will not be coached by Brian Ferentz. So, I think it is okay not to draw too many comparisons to CM.

At a bare minimum, this puts another experienced starting QB in the QB room, with an NFL skillset to boot. If nothing else, Lester will have options next year. On the flipside, this kid has all the physical tools to play at the next level, and dominated the level of football two steps below Iowa. While we would not expect him to dominate at this level, he may be well-situated to be highly successful given his experience level.
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I'm not opposed to him coming here, I just know what I've seen on social media hyping him up and how the meltdown went after CM. Like you said they aren't the same thing, I just would rather people not get their hopes up.

I think on the sites with super diehard fans like on HN/Rivals/etc. people know the Hawks and sports in general well enough to temper expectations. It's the casual folks who go on Twitter and melt down about it.
 
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