https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bu...tball-jumbo-package-offensive-line-film-study
Should be fun watching the DL get after teams the rest of the season.
Should be fun watching the DL get after teams the rest of the season.
Little D line respect
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Seriously, they are really good.
NEIChawk
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Hey, thanks for playing, NEXT
Motigerhawk
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Love the D line and the depth. I have been touting them as the best in the nation. Still believe it.
I did think they would apply more pressure. Not sure what is happening there.
I did think they would apply more pressure. Not sure what is happening there.
AreWeThereYet
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The defensive line is good. That being said, Wisconsin exploited the small size of Iowa's defensive line and inexperienced linebackers by putting six and seven offensive linemen on the line. Wisconsin also realized that unlike BYU, who blitzed quite a bit, Iowa would play straight up against Wisconsin's huge offensive front. Wisconsin also has injuries, and are a bit short at blocking tight end right now. By sticking to the short passing game to augment their power running game Wisconsin also limits the penetration opposing defenses get. I don't think Iowa is likely to run up against anything quite like Wisconsin's o-line and power running game again this season.
If I was going to level criticism, I think Iowa's defense was a little too concerned about letting plays get behind them. Wisconsin plays the short passing game even more than Iowa does. Hornibrook isn't all that good at the deep passing game or hitting the hot route when the blitz is on. Than again, Iowas back seven are pretty inexperienced and blitzing adds more complication to assignments.
If I was going to level criticism, I think Iowa's defense was a little too concerned about letting plays get behind them. Wisconsin plays the short passing game even more than Iowa does. Hornibrook isn't all that good at the deep passing game or hitting the hot route when the blitz is on. Than again, Iowas back seven are pretty inexperienced and blitzing adds more complication to assignments.
Agree.
I'm fairly impressed and the writer is also at how we matched up with the bullies of the b10 west, even when they gave it all they had and through everything they had at our D line.
It certainly wasn't like days gone by when Iowa would stand up on a goal line stance, and we couldn't get it done against them on our 4th and 1, but we are closer.
MelroseHawkins
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That was a really nice analysis, thanks for the link @4thngoal . You can really see the bind that Welch was in on the FB wheel that got behind him. He is getting a total run-read from the OL blocking, and he has a FB coming right at him on 3rd and 2, and he has a 300+ pound "TE" right in front of him washing down the DE (is that #93 Brandon Simon in there in the heavy package?). He is planning to take this guy on as a blocker, and then whoops, there he goes on a wheel. Great design.
The Wisconsin coaches had some nice special situation plays schemed up. The unforced TOs were a huge factor, obviously, but Wisconsin did a much better job in their "special" situations, such as 3rd or 4th and short. They had things they thought they could take advantage of, and they executed.
The Wisconsin coaches had some nice special situation plays schemed up. The unforced TOs were a huge factor, obviously, but Wisconsin did a much better job in their "special" situations, such as 3rd or 4th and short. They had things they thought they could take advantage of, and they executed.
Yeah I think they knew they were facing a good DL and had certain packages for it. Could have been a big focus after byu game.
Yes these certain special plays and packages is what is called scheming. It is what coaching staffs are supposed to do.
Iowa schemes ok at times but does not pull them out of the bag enough. KOK used to run the fake bubble screen and throw it down the field to a Dallas Clark who was acting like he was blocking. Iowa was one of the first teams I saw use that play.
The fake fg against OSU last year was a great exotic. Some of the pass routes to get Wadley crossing were good schemes and they should work with IKM and Sargent.
Wisky's wheel route to the halfback has been used by lots of teams over the years, Hayden had Filer and others run it alot, and it really works when play action and the running game is working. About the only way to not get burned on that is for the Lbkr to take on the Fullback with correct leverage to knock the Fback off his route and to also be able to make the tackle on the run.
We are about 20-30 pounds per defensive tackle from having a great run stopping dee line. And Dee Tackles need to get push back into the face of a QB.
Sometimes you have to take a chance and run blitz into holes to get no gain or negative plays.
It's not even how they play individually but together while their out there. D line play isn't so much about stats but controlling their gaps and doing their job so others can make plays. I was frustrated with how Wisky was able to run the ball on us. I think we even got lucky that they didn't try running it more. I think they got impatient and tried out smarting themselves with some of the passing play calls they had.
But that's the best Oline/running team we'll be facing this year and we did Ok. The Dline did do well enough to win. Did we dominate? No obviously not but we should going forward against the rest of who we play. Well allow me to edit what I'm suggesting with the asterisk around PSU. Playing them on the road will be a tough task too..
Well said. I agree unless other teams try to use the jumbo package on us but if they do then they are probably changing their offense a lot more than Wisky changes therirs.
They could have run it more but they were 17-22 passing so I dont think they outsmarted themselves.
The hawks stopped many of their drives by making one key stop for little or no gain and getting wisky in 2nd and 3rd and longer. That last drive was again another where wisky was getting desperate and would have maybe gone on 4th down many times.
A couple of the incompletions he had I thought were on 1st downs where I just thought to myself thanks for doing that. 2nd and 10 is better than 2nd and 4 to us which they'd been having pretty much every time they ran it. So no he was efficient as all get out pretty much but it was just the timing and when they called what they did a couple times that had me curious is all.
Yeah and after all that we were one play away from stopping them a few times.. Football is a funny game like that.
pythagoras
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The Bum
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so giving my opinion, which obviously is in the minority = trolling?
got it.
point taken.
group-think is a must here.
Now that is plain false.
However, your assessment on the DL as individuals is misinformed.
I actually agree that Lattimore has underperformed until this year, but he's coming along lately.
A. Nelson is unquestionably our best D-lineman, and has been for some time. His production has fallen off due to getting constant double teams from the opponents.
You do have a bit of a point regarding M. Nelson's height, as it can make it difficult for him to get leverage. However, he's also been more than solid from the interior and his past at end.
Golston is trending up, agreed.
Hesse is a leader and our best end against the run. That's the main reason he starts over AJ, with the other being gamesmanship to keep AJ fresh when he comes in as a change of pace.
I was a little meh about their run as well. Had we had 3 lb's with more experience, I think we could have shut them down for most of the game.
pythagoras
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Okay so your opinion is wrong and you're an idiot? Is that better?
