Kyle Meyer Arrested for Public Intox

ColoradoHAWKEYE said:
Thats what I was going to weigh in with as well. The kid made a choice to drink, knowing it's illegal and there could be negative consequences.

Hopefully he learns from this, that he will be held to a higher standard by being an athlete, but also of just being a law abiding adult. Further, hopefully some of the other kids in the dorms and on campus also get the message and learn from this same instance.

As we most all have done something wrong at some point in our own lives, we usually can learn from it without police sanctions. I have no problem with the cops doing their job here, and I don't know any first hand knowledge of why and how things went, but... If there is to be any blame thrown around, it would be on the jealous person that called the cops to begin with.

Sometimes it says more about a person (may even have been a parent rather than a student, with many parents dropping off their kids over the weekend) if they help their neighbors (even strangers), than picking up the phone to tattletell.

Further, if the kid was "truly" passed out, and couldn't be wakened, the finder may not have wanted to leave him that way and didn't want him to further injure himself. I would think you would tell an RA, but they might not have been available. Maybe they did the right thing, maybe they didn't. We were not there, so we will never know.
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I basically agreed with most of what you had to say except the bolded part. When it comes to blame here. It's all on Kyle. Sure he's a young guy, a lot of freedom to do what he wants, including drink more than he should, but he chose to drink. His friends that left him probably were pretty intoxicated as well. Maybe he DID have a better friend, than a jealous friend and they called the cops because they were concerned because he was unconscious. Maybe they left because they didn't want to get arrested. Many young people aren't aware that you can die from alcohol poisoning. Would it have been better to drag him back to his dorm room and let him possibly die there?

I get the whole "he's just a new kid on campus" and there's high hopes for his basketball career, but right now he's drinking underage and drunk of his *** in a dorm room. The cop was doing his job.

I'm looking at this from a parental view and also remembering how irresponsible I was with alcohol. I sure would be angry and disappointed when I got that call about my son being arrested for public intox, but it would sure be better than a call from a coroner telling me he had died in his dorm from alcohol poisoning and no one cared enough toeven call the police.
 
Yeah, for all we know, he got turned in by a guy who woke up to take a leak, and thought he saw a giant guy dead on the bathroom floor and told the RA.

I can't believe there are so many people willing to absolve Kyle of his responsibility for his own actions, and instead place the blame on others because "He's just a college kid, and that's what college kids do".
 
OatesStache said:
Yeah, for all we know, he got turned in by a guy who woke up to take a leak, and thought he saw a giant guy dead on the bathroom floor and told the RA.I can't believe there are so many people willing to absolve Kyle of his responsibility for his own actions, and instead place the blame on others because "He's just a college kid, and that's what college kids do".
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you are surprised that there are a lot of people who don't think drinking is a big deal? jeez what world do you live in?
 
PCHawk said:
you are surprised that there are a lot of people who don't think drinking is a big deal? jeez what world do you live in?
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I didn't say that people shouldn't think it's a big deal. I said they should stop making excuses for him.

I don't think it's a big deal either. It's a simple misdemeanor, he'll spend a few Saturday's picking up trash, and learn his lesson. Not a big deal at all. He went over board, he got pinched, hopefully he learned his lesson and skips the last pitcher.
 
I think the lesson he needs to learn is if you're gunna puke, sleep with a garbage can next to you instead of by a toilet.
 
PCHawk said:
I think the lesson he needs to learn is if you're gunna puke, sleep with a garbage can next to you instead of by a toilet.
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Another lesson to be learned here is to be selective about where to pass out. If a more private location is available it's better to stagger, stumble or crawl there so you can pass out in relative privacy.
 
FalseMirage said:
Another lesson to be learned here is to be selective about where to pass out. If a more private location is available it's better to stagger, stumble or crawl there so you can pass out in relative privacy.
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Either that, or learn a little self control and cut yourself off before you reach that point. Easy to say I guess, coming from someone whose college days are more than a decade behind him, though.
 
No problem w/ someone calling the police. If anyone is drunk, passed out on the floor and can't be aroused, there is always a concern about alcohol poisoning, which is serious and potentially lethal. Hopefully Kyle learns from the experience.
 
kmajhawk said:
No problem w/ someone calling the police. If anyone is drunk, passed out on the floor and can't be aroused, there is always a concern about alcohol poisoning, which is serious and potentially lethal. Hopefully Kyle learns from the experience.
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if you can't be aroused it just means you have wiskey d!ck.
 
kmajhawk said:
No problem w/ someone calling the police. If anyone is drunk, passed out on the floor and can't be aroused, there is always a concern about alcohol poisoning, which is serious and potentially lethal. Hopefully Kyle learns from the experience.
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that's when you call paramedics, not law enforcement agents
 
Meyer definitely is to blame for what happened, but what he did isn't really abnormal at all. I've known people in life that live to tell on other people, and thats one way they get their jollies. If the guy that called the cops would of had some compassion on Meyer it never would of gotten to the point it did.
 
Tierney said:
Meyer definitely is to blame for what happened, but what he did isn't really abnormal at all. I've known people in life that live to tell on other people, and thats one way they get their jollies. If the guy that called the cops would of had some compassion on Meyer it never would of gotten to the point it did.
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Maybe if he had not gotten so **** faced drunk no one would have called the cops.
 
MNHawkeyeFreak said:
Often times with paramedics comes the cops.
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I know. My point was that the police should not be the first/only call when a youngster is passed-out drunk. He needs medical attention, not law enforcement attention. All the stupid cops will do is taze him in an attempt to sober him up. :eek: :p
 
Scorpio79 said:
Ever get pulled over and proceed to argue with teh cop about how much over the limit you were moving? Or go to court ad argue a ticket?
If you have no problem with copz enforcing laws, then your honest answer has to be "no" in both cases.

I'm not even going to ask you if you've ever driven after drinking...:rolleyes:
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Actually, no I never have argued with a cop over a ticket or gone to court to contest one.

Thx for not asking the last one.
 
MisterLucky said:
If the police would have escorted him back to his room, and informed Coach McCaffery about the incident. I would assume Fran would have notified his parents and read him the riot act regarding what would occur if the incident was repeated. I would have been more satisfied with that outcome rather than see him humiliated in public and besmirch the program.
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There are more important things in life than "the program."


Sincerely,

Your Friends at Penn State



Seriously, kids need to learn that they're accountable for their behavior. I don't think athletes should be coddled or protected. Hopefully, he'll learn from it.
 
Has Anyone who has posted on this thread ever drunk a beer or an alcoholic beverage while under age. If anyone who has has demeaned Kyle, then he is a Hypocrite. You know what a hypocrite is, don't you......

1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.

2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, especially one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.

I will not lower myself to give my opinion of Hypocrites......


 
Kind of late to the topic here (and I didnt read the whole strain), but I question whether a bathroom located in a dormitory, in which the person lives, is a "public place?" Iowa Code section 123.46 prohibits a person from being intoxicated in a "public place." That chapter also defines "public place" as "any place, building or conveyance to which the public has or is permitted access." As I understand it, the dormitories in IC are locked down and only accessible through a pass or key card. I, as a member of the general public, do not have access to the dorms and to gain entry would have to be invited by someone who is permitted access to it. Seems to me one could make a pretty good argument that the dormitory restrooms are private and therefore not subject to public intoxication statutes.
 
I can see if he was driving while drunk, or in a car drunk with a driver thats drunk. If he was drunk and disorderly. Drinking where you live is pretty tame, and hopefully, he will learn from the experience. I knew a guy in the army that had around thirty shots of tequilla, and his friends threw him in his bed, and his arm landed behind his head. The guys arm had his blood circulation cut off and he could barely use it for a long time. There are a lot worse things that can happen to someone when they are bombed out of their minds. There are a lot of thoughts on the matter, but I still think its pretty normal for an eighteen year old guy to do something pretty stupid the first time he is away from home. When Meyer did his stupid thing, at least he wasn't hurting anyone, but himself.
 
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