Kurt Bohls on 1700....
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hawkIhoops
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I wish I shared your sentiment. KOK, according to his handful of fans, was an offensive genius who ran the spread before the spread was popular. Are we to believe that he came here and forgot everything?
The offense has been stagnat for all of KF's career with the exception of Brad Banks and Drew Tate making plays with their legs and going outside the box. Reference Tate's comments about having the potential to put up more points, but being held back by coaching staff (paraphrasing). We have defined conservative, predictable play calling for the past 13 years and this hasn't been by accident.
The best aspect of KOK was his timing. He would throw something in at the right time in big games that the defense just wasn't ready for b/c he didn't call it all season or the previous 3 quarters of the game.
What I hope to see now w/ Davis is a more "pro style" passing game. Better timing and routes...maybe some bubble screens, some new WR packages/formations. Iowa has, with KOK and KF, been questionable in this area, IMO.
Davis is a proud guy and believes in his system so I doubt he will just acquiesce to everything KF wants and I doubt KF wants him to do that.
What I hope to see now w/ Davis is a more "pro style" passing game. Better timing and routes...maybe some bubble screens, some new WR packages/formations. Iowa has, with KOK and KF, been questionable in this area, IMO.
Davis is a proud guy and believes in his system so I doubt he will just acquiesce to everything KF wants and I doubt KF wants him to do that.
This is pretty common in college FB, except for maybe the no-huddle teams. I don't think Iowa is really much worse than average here.
kok didnt run the spread when he was a head coach. he ran primarily 1 back sets with 3 and 4 wrs. the system from everything i have seen looked much more like a west coast offense.
we have and will be a conservative team. davis is actually pretty conservative as a play caller. but what i remember of his offenses whether in spread or prostyle he was very good at getting favorable matchups using motion, shifting, personnel groupings. this is where i believe kok had his major downfall.
RocknRollface
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foval,
I don't know that I can believe that was koks call.
Iowas MO under Ferentz on both sides of the ball has always been, "we are going to line up how we always line up regardless of what you do and we are going to out execute you."
If KF was interested in lots of different personnel groups Iowa would have been doing it. I think in his mind it creates to many opportunities for false starts, miscues, and missed blocking assignments.
I don't know that I can believe that was koks call.
Iowas MO under Ferentz on both sides of the ball has always been, "we are going to line up how we always line up regardless of what you do and we are going to out execute you."
If KF was interested in lots of different personnel groups Iowa would have been doing it. I think in his mind it creates to many opportunities for false starts, miscues, and missed blocking assignments.
we will see if it was kf or kok. i tend to believe the offensive system is the head coach and the scheme is the oc. maybe he does believe that different personnel groupings causes more problems but the fact that he comes from a pro background (kf) i doubt that. i think kok just stuck with what he felt were the best situations. i thought we underutilized kmm and could have used cjf as a slot some. those are personnel decisions because obviously kmm wasnt going to play in a 2 wr set and cjf could easily be used like we used to use dallas clark as a slot/te hybrid. we will learn a lot about kf this coming year. though tendencies will be broken with a new play caller it will be interesting to see if that is all that changes. i want to stay with prostyle and i believe we will but i think we can better utilize some of our skill players. i will always be a fan of kf but seeing this yr will help me determine just how much control he weilds over his assistants and whether it might be too much and he needs to release some of the power.
RocknRollface
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Im with you on thinking those things would of been good...but
If KF had any inclination of wanting to see CJF in the slot wouldn't it just be a matter of him telling KOK to make it happen? Its certainly not as if Kirk wasn't aware that the option to do so existed.
I can't envision a scenario of Kirk telling Ken I think we need to use these players in this or that way and Ken saying no.
I think its really the other way around. KOK was the one who wanted to bench Christensen in favor of Stanzi and Kirk is the one who said no.
gordonearl
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I hope Davis can teach the QBs how to throw the ball away. Stanzi and Vandenberg both took too many sacks in the two minute drill.
HomerChampless
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More likely, that's your belief. Who cares what you believe?
HomerChampless
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Yet everyone is hoping for, calling for, scheme changes... Duh.
HomerChampless
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BTW, I'm calling for the only scheme change that could make sense to a conservative coach like KF... Make the defense dominant.
Creating new schemes to make the defense dominant won't change KF's philosophy - unless KF's true philosophy is to be old fashioned.
Offenses in the B1G have evolved. Iowa's defense has to evolve to become dominant.
If the defense is dominant, the offense doesn't have to take risks.
Creating new schemes to make the defense dominant won't change KF's philosophy - unless KF's true philosophy is to be old fashioned.
Offenses in the B1G have evolved. Iowa's defense has to evolve to become dominant.
If the defense is dominant, the offense doesn't have to take risks.
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weird response. I didn't say I believe anything. I said MAYBE kirk believed KOK wasn't capable of running a 2 minute drill. as for who cares what i believe, its a message board, that's what they are for
hawkfan2679
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Then KF should be chastised for hiring a coordinator at a D-1A, BCS level college whom he simply can't/won't trust to run a 2 minute drill (and then keeping him around as long as he did).
HomerChampless
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PCHawk, did you want to chastise KF for keeping KOK after witnessing KOK's 'poor' performance in 2 minute drills?
HomerChampless
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Duh.. Would KF still be the captain if he'd kept KOK?
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