Kirk on the Side for 11/8

[JonDMiller]

Q: Here is a name from the past; Joe Uselman. Are you looking for that guy this year?

Kirk Ferentz: It was a great story and a name from the past. Was that 2002? 2003? Joe is that kind of guy. He is like Joe Forgy...he just dropped in here, a Wisconsin native. I am not sure how he got there. Ron Aiken had a connection and he did a good job. It;s all hands on deck

Q: You have to blow past pedigree now

Ferentz: We did that about 10 years ago.

Q: You are asking a lot of guys to do things for the first time ever. Is that a theme for this team this year?

Ferentz: If someone can help us we are all for it.

Q: Why were you successful last year against Kirk Cousins?

Ferentz: You know, I can’t answer that. It’s just one of those games that does not happen often, as we know. All of the sudden, we look up and there is a lead. It happened fast and it wasn’t...if you look at the statistics, it wasn’t a game where we had 500 yards and the opponent had 200, it was almost an even game but it got out of control. Big plays here and there. It’s kind of the way it went. It was not indicative of the teams. We were fortunate

Q: What has CJ done the past few weeks to move him along?

Ferentz: I don’t think it’s anything particular. We evaluate all of the guys weekly and they have been even throughout the season and we felt like he was on an upward climb and responded well last week. He will continue to be our starter and see where it goes, but we count on all three to help us.

Q: Point about Marcus over analyzing the game beginning year, is it more of a challenge for him because there are not a lot of astrophysics majors playing RB...is he cerebral naturally?

Ferentz: Everyone has a different personality and some people tend to analyze to much or be too hard on themselves. He leans in that direction, I think that is fair to say. He is his own worst critic. Sometimes, it’s paralysis by analysis. He has some of that going maybe. But younger players, most running backs out of high school try to make too many cuts as opposed to reading a key, making a decision and go. GOing back to basics helps. But practice and playing helps you more than anything.

Q: How has Coker used the fullback, because it was absent without Rogers.

Ferentz: I don’t know if as big a story as you are trying to make it. When Brad wasn’t in there, we leaned more towards our tight end groups. It’s a nice thing to have a fullback in our offense. Michigan State and Wisconsin are the same way. We had that with Brett Morse and we graduate a three year starter. We thought we had the answer in December, and then it was gone. We lean left or right based on who the healthy personnel might be. There is a chemistry there and they are friends. They are a lot alike, soft spoken guys that have a good presence on the field. We had a first snapshot was at Michigan last year, I thought Brad played like he was a veteran in a tough circumstance. He won me over that afternoon really

Q: 10 years down the road when you are asked about Paterno, what will you say?

Ferentz: Come see me in ten years.

Q: If they ask you now?

Ferentz: I am just thinking about Michigan State. I don;t know what anyone can say right at this moment.

Q: What is his legacy?

Ferentz: Right now I don’t know what anyone can say.

 

[hawkfarmer]

I think Ferentz answered the JoePa questions about as well as anyone could expect. No need for him to speculate or slander when he doesn't know the facts either.

 

[JHHawk]

I wish the whole world would take the KF stance on JoePa....let the fact emerge before concluding anything.

 

[JonDMiller]

I wish the whole world would take the KF stance on JoePa....let the fact emerge before concluding anything.

There is a 23 page Grand Jury Testimony, man. For those who don't know, when you testify before a Grand Jury, you swear to tell the truth. If you don't, you can go to jail for committing perjury.

McQueary swore under oath that he saw Sandusky in a sex act with a boy-minor in the PSU shower on 3/1/2002. He swore under oath that he told Paterno about it the next day. Paterno swore under oath that he told the AD about it on 3/4/2002. The AD swore under oath that about a week and a half later he interviewed McQueary. The AD swore under oath that two weeks after that, he told McQueary that they had taken Sandusky's locker room key from him, and informed the Second Mile Foundation of this allegation...the very organization founded by Sandusky and that Sandusky used to lure his victims.

None of those involved ever contacted even the campus police.

I am sure PSU has had 'kids days' since then at the old ball park...while they remained quiet on the child rapist in their midst for these past 8 years, years where he had been continuing to rape other boys.

What the heck more do you want? This is one of the biggest failings of children I can recall.

 

[hawkfarmer]

I agree Jon, but I don't think it is KF's place to bring judgement.

 

[BlackHawk]

There is a 23 page Grand Jury Testimony, man. For those who don't know, when you testify before a Grand Jury, you swear to tell the truth. If you don't, you can go to jail for committing perjury.

McQueary swore under oath that he saw Sandusky in a sex act with a boy-minor in the PSU shower on 3/1/2002. He swore under oath that he told Paterno about it the next day. Paterno swore under oath that he told the AD about it on 3/4/2002. The AD swore under oath that about a week and a half later he interviewed McQueary. The AD swore under oath that two weeks after that, he told McQueary that they had taken Sandusky's locker room key from him, and informed the Second Mile Foundation of this allegation...the very organization founded by Sandusky and that Sandusky used to lure his victims.

None of those involved ever contacted even the campus police.

I am sure PSU has had 'kids days' since then at the old ball park...while they remained quiet on the child rapist in their midst for these past 8 years, years where he had been continuing to rape other boys.

What the heck more do you want? This is one of the biggest failings of children I can recall.

All true and, although your post didn't address the subject, KF answered the PSU/Paterno questions the only way someone in his position should at this point.

He, the athletic department, and the U of I have nothing to gain by offering an opinion in response to those questions. Nobody could possibly believe that any of the aforementioned condone any of this, even in the absence of an express statement to such effect.

Juries are bound by the concepts of innocent until proven guilty, rules of evidence, and guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt. The general public is not bound by these concepts and when there is sufficient evidence of wrongdoing, as there is here, I have no problem with the general public disregarding these concepts and reaching a conclusion as to guilt (and in this case, morality). However, I think it wise that KF not answer the questions.

 

[hoffahawk]

I think Ferentz answered the JoePa questions about as well as anyone could expect. No need for him to speculate or slander when he doesn't know the facts either.

He knows what all of us know if not more because of his ties back there.

However he did handle the questions well and after hearing what some of the other coaches in the Big 10 said when asked about Joe Pa and PSU they could learn a lot from KF.

At the front of that line would be our good friend Mr. Zook.

 

[ssckelley]

But it is typical KF response. I know he respects Paterno a great deal but if KF would have taken the high road and at least commented on horrifying the allegations are, no one would have called him out for it. Nor would it have been front page news on ESPN.com. Instead he chooses to ignore it an say he is focused on MSU.

 

[DBorwig316]

I wish the whole world would take the KF stance on JoePa....let the fact emerge before concluding anything.

There is a 23 page Grand Jury Testimony, man. For those who don't know, when you testify before a Grand Jury, you swear to tell the truth. If you don't, you can go to jail for committing perjury.McQueary swore under oath that he saw Sandusky in a sex act with a boy-minor in the PSU shower on 3/1/2002. He swore under oath that he told Paterno about it the next day. Paterno swore under oath that he told the AD about it on 3/4/2002. The AD swore under oath that about a week and a half later he interviewed McQueary. The AD swore under oath that two weeks after that, he told McQueary that they had taken Sandusky's locker room key from him, and informed the Second Mile Foundation of this allegation...the very organization founded by Sandusky and that Sandusky used to lure his victims. None of those involved ever contacted even the campus police.I am sure PSU has had 'kids days' since then at the old ball park...while they remained quiet on the child rapist in their midst for these past 8 years, years where he had been continuing to rape other boys.What the heck more do you want? This is one of the biggest failings of children I can recall.

I could not have said it any better myself. This is why, when this is all said and done, I think the NCAA needs to put the banhammer down on PSU and make an example out of them. I understand people saying that the athletes didn't do this so why should they get punished, but the line must be drawn somewhere. The only way to make sure that nobody ever tries to put themselves or their institution ahead of someone else's safety again is to bring the absolute harshest penalties ever assessed to an athletic department ever. The NCAA needs to show zero tolerance to such bullsh*t, and prevent anyone from even thinking about covering a crime again.

 

[hoffahawk]

But it is typical KF response. I know he respects Paterno a great deal but if KF would have taken the high road and at least commented on horrifying the allegations are, no one would have called him out for it. Nor would it have been front page news on ESPN.com. Instead he chooses to ignore it an say he is focused on MSU.

I disagree. He didn't say we are focused on MSU and haven't really thought about anything else or played it off like he didn't know what was going on, which is usually the case. He didn't say much but enough to understand what he was getting at.

I think reading between the lines of "I don't know what anybody can say at this moment" says a lot.

 

[hawkfarmer]

They were asking about paterno's legacy. What is KF supposed to say. it's tarnished or ruined. he can't say that. He just has to pass it off. KF knows it is bad. They didn't ask about the rape or the issues just about Paterno. I don't think he can say anything about the man.

Also, what did the Zooker say? didn't see it.

 

[David79]

There is a 23 page Grand Jury Testimony, man. For those who don't know, when you testify before a Grand Jury, you swear to tell the truth. If you don't, you can go to jail for committing perjury.

McQueary swore under oath that he saw Sandusky in a sex act with a boy-minor in the PSU shower on 3/1/2002. He swore under oath that he told Paterno about it the next day. Paterno swore under oath that he told the AD about it on 3/4/2002. The AD swore under oath that about a week and a half later he interviewed McQueary. The AD swore under oath that two weeks after that, he told McQueary that they had taken Sandusky's locker room key from him, and informed the Second Mile Foundation of this allegation...the very organization founded by Sandusky and that Sandusky used to lure his victims.

None of those involved ever contacted even the campus police.

I am sure PSU has had 'kids days' since then at the old ball park...while they remained quiet on the child rapist in their midst for these past 8 years, years where he had been continuing to rape other boys.

What the heck more do you want? This is one of the biggest failings of children I can recall.

Jon,
you also understand that what Paterno did and did not do in terms of following up with the AD and other officials would most likely never have even come up in front of the grand jury because it wouldn't be relevant to the case which is what Sandusky allegedly did. Therefore to make a judgment about the actions Paterno did or did not take is simply to judge before all the facts are out. If it turns out that Paterno did in fact know that nothing was reported to the police and he failed to do anything then yes he was wrong but nobody knows the complete set of facts when it comes to Paterno.

Additionally a grand jury only hears the prosecutions side of the case and no rules of evidenec apply meaning that the prosecution can pretty much do whatever it wants besides violating the constitution, i.e. present hearsay evidence. These presentations are pretty lopsided and only tell the story the prosecution wants the grand jury to hear.

That being said, the University should make him step down as Coach. There is just too much crap too keep the people involved, even if they were involved nominally. The University need to start fresh with a whole new AD and football coach and staff.

 

[hoffahawk]

Also, what did the Zooker say? didn't see it.

I can't find it now but heard it earlier on the radio. Said basically that JoePa was a great role model and a great man..........

 

[ssckelley]

I disagree. He didn't say we are focused on MSU and haven't really thought about anything else or played it off like he didn't know what was going on, which is usually the case. He didn't say much but enough to understand what he was getting at.

I think reading between the lines of "I don't know what anybody can say at this moment" says a lot.

ok, let me correct my words. He said "I am just thinking about Michigan State", basically taking a pass at answering the question.

 

[treychase]

There is a 23 page Grand Jury Testimony, man. For those who don't know, when you testify before a Grand Jury, you swear to tell the truth. If you don't, you can go to jail for committing perjury.

McQueary swore under oath that he saw Sandusky in a sex act with a boy-minor in the PSU shower on 3/1/2002. He swore under oath that he told Paterno about it the next day. Paterno swore under oath that he told the AD about it on 3/4/2002. The AD swore under oath that about a week and a half later he interviewed McQueary. The AD swore under oath that two weeks after that, he told McQueary that they had taken Sandusky's locker room key from him, and informed the Second Mile Foundation of this allegation...the very organization founded by Sandusky and that Sandusky used to lure his victims.

None of those involved ever contacted even the campus police.

I am sure PSU has had 'kids days' since then at the old ball park...while they remained quiet on the child rapist in their midst for these past 8 years, years where he had been continuing to rape other boys.

What the heck more do you want? This is one of the biggest failings of children I can recall.

I agree with you 100% maybe the first time ever.
Wish it wasn't on this.

 

[HawkeyeMHA]

not KF's place to go into detail on this.

 

[Igothawked]

There is a 23 page Grand Jury Testimony, man. For those who don't know, when you testify before a Grand Jury, you swear to tell the truth. If you don't, you can go to jail for committing perjury. McQueary swore under oath that he saw Sandusky in a sex act with a boy-minor in the PSU shower on 3/1/2002. He swore under oath that he told Paterno about it the next day. Paterno swore under oath that he told the AD about it on 3/4/2002. The AD swore under oath that about a week and a half later he interviewed McQueary. The AD swore under oath that two weeks after that, he told McQueary that they had taken Sandusky's locker room key from him, and informed the Second Mile Foundation of this allegation...the very organization founded by Sandusky and that Sandusky used to lure his victims. None of those involved ever contacted even the campus police. I am sure PSU has had 'kids days' since then at the old ball park...while they remained quiet on the child rapist in their midst for these past 8 years, years where he had been continuing to rape other boys. What the heck more do you want? This is one of the biggest failings of children I can recall.

Jon, you also understand that what Paterno did and did not do in terms of following up with the AD and other officials would most likely never have even come up in front of the grand jury because it wouldn't be relevant to the case which is what Sandusky allegedly did. Therefore to make a judgment about the actions Paterno did or did not take is simply to judge before all the facts are out. If it turns out that Paterno did in fact know that nothing was reported to the police and he failed to do anything then yes he was wrong but nobody knows the complete set of facts when it comes to Paterno. Additionally a grand jury only hears the prosecutions side of the case and no rules of evidenec apply meaning that the prosecution can pretty much do whatever it wants besides violating the constitution, i.e. present hearsay evidence. These presentations are pretty lopsided and only tell the story the prosecution wants the grand jury to hear. That being said, the University should make him step down as Coach. There is just too much crap too keep the people involved, even if they were involved nominally. The University need to start fresh with a whole new AD and football coach and staff.

David,
your defending of Paterno is starting to upset me. I see what you are saying about wanting to hear Paterno's side.of the story and that the grand jury report is one sided.
BUT this goes far beyond Paterno not.reporting this to police. I think what he did there was wrong. But the worst thing he did was leave this guy around campus after the TWO (at least) reports of him showering with boys on campus. How you can keep him around is beyond reproach. it is very apparent that Paterno knew something was up with Sandusky, yet he continued to let him use the Penn St campus as his personal preyground for helpless children. Paterno could have cut him off, kicked him off campus, etc at any.time but did not. For this, Paterno is at fault for. Any abuse that took place after 1999 or especially.after 2002 is directly on Paterno. instead Paterno and the school just told him not to bring the kids around anymore. Guess what, then he just started volunteer coaching at a local school so he could keep doing this sick sh*t.
But please keep defending Paterno and wait for him to tell his side of the story.

 

[gohawks71]

I don't want him focused on anything but the game so his answer is what I want to hear. Who cares what he thinks about the PSU thing, he is paid to coach and coach very well, not give his opinion on a matter that has nothing to do with us winning our next game.

But it is typical KF response. I know he respects Paterno a great deal but if KF would have taken the high road and at least commented on horrifying the allegations are, no one would have called him out for it. Nor would it have been front page news on ESPN.com. Instead he chooses to ignore it an say he is focused on MSU.

 

[ssckelley]

It is not like we just have stories and hear say comments, you have a Grand Jury document where he testified under oath that he had knowledge of the 2002 shower incident and he reported it to the AD the next day. We also know at no point did Paterno ever call police. What other facts do you need to know? You say you want to hear Paterno's side, can you think of any possible scenario or excuse that could exonerate Paterno? When Paterno found out 2 weeks later all they did was take away his locker keys and ban him from bringing kids on Campus, wouldn't there be something that triggers your brain that says this is not right? Yet not only does Paterno accept the "punishment" they gave him but he allowed this monster to remain part of the football program. Had Paterno done the right thing 9 years ago we are not talking about this today. Penn State could have survived the scandal back in 2002 and he would have went on to be the goody goody JoePa everyone loved to break all those records.

So tell us David, what other facts do you need?

 

[gohawks71]

So how do you know for a fact that Paterno didn't try to do this? Maybe he did but dirtbag cried to a higher power so he could stay. Let's not go crazy on anyone without the facts first. If anything outside of hating Sandusky, the person I am ****** about is those guys who witnessed this horrible act and didn't kick the living shat* out of him. I would of left him close to death and called the cops/ambulance to come and get him before I finish the job.

There is a 23 page Grand Jury Testimony, man. For those who don't know, when you testify before a Grand Jury, you swear to tell the truth. If you don't, you can go to jail for committing perjury. McQueary swore under oath that he saw Sandusky in a sex act with a boy-minor in the PSU shower on 3/1/2002. He swore under oath that he told Paterno about it the next day. Paterno swore under oath that he told the AD about it on 3/4/2002. The AD swore under oath that about a week and a half later he interviewed McQueary. The AD swore under oath that two weeks after that, he told McQueary that they had taken Sandusky's locker room key from him, and informed the Second Mile Foundation of this allegation...the very organization founded by Sandusky and that Sandusky used to lure his victims. None of those involved ever contacted even the campus police. I am sure PSU has had 'kids days' since then at the old ball park...while they remained quiet on the child rapist in their midst for these past 8 years, years where he had been continuing to rape other boys. What the heck more do you want? This is one of the biggest failings of children I can recall.

Jon, you also understand that what Paterno did and did not do in terms of following up with the AD and other officials would most likely never have even come up in front of the grand jury because it wouldn't be relevant to the case which is what Sandusky allegedly did. Therefore to make a judgment about the actions Paterno did or did not take is simply to judge before all the facts are out. If it turns out that Paterno did in fact know that nothing was reported to the police and he failed to do anything then yes he was wrong but nobody knows the complete set of facts when it comes to Paterno. Additionally a grand jury only hears the prosecutions side of the case and no rules of evidenec apply meaning that the prosecution can pretty much do whatever it wants besides violating the constitution, i.e. present hearsay evidence. These presentations are pretty lopsided and only tell the story the prosecution wants the grand jury to hear. That being said, the University should make him step down as Coach. There is just too much crap too keep the people involved, even if they were involved nominally. The University need to start fresh with a whole new AD and football coach and staff.

David,your defending of Paterno is starting to upset me. I see what you are saying about wanting to hear Paterno's side.of the story and that the grand jury report is one sided.BUT this goes far beyond Paterno not.reporting this to police. I think what he did there was wrong. But the worst thing he did was leave this guy around campus after the TWO (at least) reports of him showering with boys on campus. How you can keep him around is beyond reproach. it is very apparent that Paterno knew something was up with Sandusky, yet he continued to let him use the Penn St campus as his personal preyground for helpless children. Paterno could have cut him off, kicked him off campus, etc at any.time but did not. For this, Paterno is at fault for. Any abuse that took place after 1999 or especially.after 2002 is directly on Paterno. instead Paterno and the school just told him not to bring the kids around anymore. Guess what, then he just started volunteer coaching at a local school so he could keep doing this sick sh*t.But please keep defending Paterno and wait for him to tell his side of the story.