Kirk Ferentz on Hawkeyes Being Left Out of Coaches Poll
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pythagoras
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I declare a season’s success based on a championship won or quality wins. We beat two p5 teams with winning records at the time. Nine wins was due to the laugher of a schedule we played. I felt this year was an underachiever based on the b10 record and overall lack of quality wins
Harsh? What is harsh about the truth? The bowl game exposed that season for what it was.
deanvogs
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Jesus man. We got our asses handed to us by a top 5 team. Hell look at the college football playoffs 1st round since it began. 7 of the 10 1st round games have been 17 pt or more beat downs. Were those 7 teams exposed that season for what it was? It happens, good teams get beaten and beaten badly, only a freaking fool would think 1 game proves a season is a failure.
Da Haters act like Iowa is in the abyss, and the program is broken. Iowa has won 37 games over the last 4 years, which is 1 win shy of it's best 4 year stretch under Ferentz (38 wins from '01-'04) and ties Fry's best 4 year stretch (37 wins '84-'87)
On top of that we have finished ranked in 2 of the last 4 years, and over the last 4 years have won at least 8 games each year. Only 11 P5 teams have accomplished this and 15 in all of FBS football.
SteveGarvey1
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The predictable response to this post will be that we only got to 8 wins each year because of a weak schedule. Not like some of these other teams don't schedule cupcakes either.
7-4 record against P5 foes this year. That takes our 3-year record against P5 opponents to something like 20-13. If you wanted to count 2015, our 4 year record against P5 foes is something like 31-15 (but we all know 2015 doesn't count because it was a fluke). So over the last 4 years, we win about twice as often as we lose against our peers. Good, not elite.
Everyone knows we left wins on the table this year, and the season is disappointing in that regard. But most of the indicators are pointing up. As long as the recent development of tons of early entries doesn't derail things, I am thinking we have some sunny times ahead.
pythagoras
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You also have to look at the way the hawks won games easily pulling away from N Illinois which was a good team, totally handling UNI except for a couple late scores, defensively dominating ISU, handling Minny, Maryland and Indiana, crushing Illinois like nobody else did, and beating Nebby, a somewhat better Nebby team than a few games earlier, in a closer game than it should have been.
Yes, all 4 losses were gut wrenching and I have to say highly typical of KF's coaching and brand of football. Losing close games and tossing away games is my only overall negative of KF (and it happens because of some recurring game time issues). jNW has become a thorn in KF's side as has some other teams because they know how to handle the hawks even though the hawks are the better team, this needs fixed.
The four losses were very close and each was a game the hawks executed poorly in some key situations.
But then the Outback bowl win was very big and I dont care about the minus rushing stats. The fact is they found a way to win against a ranked opponent with one of the top 3 defenses in the nation because the hawks also have a top defense and the offense made plays and only two major errors.
Overall good season.
deanvogs
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LOL on not counting 2015. That year we played 12 P5 teams and went 10-2 vs them, but yeah, that "doesn't count". LOLOLOLOL.
We are actually 30-15 vs P5 teams over the last 4 years which is winning at a 67% clip vs other P5 schools which is actually EXCELLENT.
Plus who the *uck do you think teams beat? Most SEC and ACC schools schedule 4 auto wins a year, and then play 8 P5 teams. Lots of other teams play 3 non P5 teams a year, while Iowa plays only 2 non P5 teams.
Pretty sure he's poking fun at people who say that dean
trj
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Sorry man, Iowa didn't have that juggernaut of a schedule like ISU. Based on what Iowa St. did, it is an underachievement. Just can't compete with what is going on Ames right now.
Smoke and mirrors. Kf and tom davis are the kings of racking up wins over no one for longevity sake. Good coaches, but far from great and both had serious trouble getting game changers to iowa city
Except for the fact that most of KFs success comes against really good schedules.
https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other?date=2019-01-07
03- 10th rated SOS (10-3)
04- 12th (10-2)
05- 12th (7-5)
06- 48th (6-7)
07- 73rd (6-6)
08- 30th (9-4)
09- 32nd (11-2)
10- 35th (8-5)
11- 47th (7-6)
12- 50th (4-8)
13- 38th (8-5)
14- 59th (7-6)
15- 51st (12-2)
16- 44th (8-5)
17- 10th (8-5)
18- 27th (9-4)
With 120+ FBS teams over this time period, Iowa's schedule consistently ranks in the top half of the country, and our most successful years they rank in the top quarter.
So much for "smoke and mirrors".
deanvogs
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Da Haters are laughable. I mean they just make shit up that has no basis in fact, but da is wat dey do.
homes
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Based on these recent posts, I will not be satisfied until Iowa beats Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Michigan State, Wisconsin, all on the road of course, in the same year. AND, it must include a non-conference schedule that includes at least one top tier SEC team, and the prior year's national champion, presuming it's not someone from the above list, in which case it will any other team in the playoff the year before. Scheduling be damned, if Barta has half a wit, he can figure it out. Anything less is unacceptable. This is coming from someone who used to walk 20 miles to school everyday, uphill both ways, in a snowstorm. Even when there was no school.
Thanks so much making my point for me! It makes this so much easier! With the vast amount of over the top resources that kf has, I judge his success against his peers. And that’s other p5 sclools so that is 65...not 120. You could further argue that his resources dwarf that of the clowns, rutgers and countless other teams in the 65 and he certainly is compensated like a top 10 coach but for some reason you are ok with top 35 results instead, but i digress. He does get lift in the schedule strength whenever the clowns have an up yr or when delaney is sleeping and lets ohio st or the like slip onto the schedule. Outside of last yr, according to your own data, he hasn’t played a p5 schedule since 05 against his peer p5 schools
Out of all that rambling, this was the most laughable. The 2017 schedule was the 10th toughest in the country, and this years was the 27th.
Also, glad to know that your criteria for success is the only acceptable ones. Great goalpost moving, but I'll play your game if we're talking just P5 schedules (which is not how the rankings work btw, a non P5 team can still have a difficult schedule), Iowa still had one that ranked in the top have of the P5 5 times since 05, with 13 missing out by a couple spots.
Easy to see reading comprehension and math aren't your strong suits, but I guess I shouldn't expect too much from you of all people.
We’ll never agree so we’ll need to agree to disagree. I’m sick of watching this coach and holding the coaching spot hostage. I want something else. That’s why i gave up tickets several yrs ago and casually watch. I was in your shoes once and grew out of it. I have high expectations based on the commitment given and resources given. To me, he hasn’t delivered and I’m allowed my opinion and you are yours
