KF is now 2-5 against Fitz.
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okeefe4prez
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Man, I wasn't even going to post this, but I have to respond. It's not "pretty bad" it is laughable. It is terrible. I'm going to have HawkeyeHeadHunter put out some feelers to see if anyone good is interested.
KF and Fitz are mirror images of each other. The only difference is Fitz has ability to adjust, Fitz has the ability to motivate players, Fitz utilizes his skill players in the best manner possible, Fitz beats teams that he should beat and sometimes beats teams he shouldn't, Fitz doesn't chew gum or snort. Outside of that.....twinkies.
How many bowl games has Fitz won?
FreedComanche
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Ooooooooooooooooooooooo..........................don't say that. Some might think you are attacking his character. Pffffftttttt......
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HawkeyeWalker
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I don't really like how Fitz rolls, but he is a good coach. Other than last week, all the games pretty close and NW "stole" a couple from us. I think the talent is pretty close to even. Hard to argue we haven't been outcoached, but it's closer than most would admit. NW hasn't been a bad team in quite a while, so not sure why its so inconceivable that they have beaten us in the past recent years.
None of this is to say I haven't expected to beat them, and think it Should be about 4-3 in the Hawks favor. You don't get too many Persa's that come along (again, not sayin, just sayin). This year the better team won and I will get crucified for this but (it was closer than the score - I know this contradicts EVERYTHING out there from the experts - just my opinion that it basically came down to 3 plays (punt block, long run, long pass - all which resulted in "easy" TD's - yeah yeah I know that it's just part of the game).
I may be out of my mind...
None of this is to say I haven't expected to beat them, and think it Should be about 4-3 in the Hawks favor. You don't get too many Persa's that come along (again, not sayin, just sayin). This year the better team won and I will get crucified for this but (it was closer than the score - I know this contradicts EVERYTHING out there from the experts - just my opinion that it basically came down to 3 plays (punt block, long run, long pass - all which resulted in "easy" TD's - yeah yeah I know that it's just part of the game).
I may be out of my mind...
bowl wins? lol Seriously?
KF has Fitz 2-0 in bowl games that actually have some semblance of meaning. Given the advantages Iowa has over Northwestern it should be much more than a 2-0 advantage.
Outback bowls don't mean anything? Well in that case, Northwestern hasn't even been to a good bowl game by your metric.
The point was you shouldn't hype up Fitz all that much considering he hasn't even sniffed a conference championship.
Here's Fitz's records:
47-38 (24-29 B1G)
Ferentz over that same time:
51-34 (27-25)
Fitz is an overrated coach, just as Ferentz is.
HawkeyeWalker
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i'm really not so sure iowa has that many advantages over NW anymore. If they do, the same logic could be said that we should never be able to compete with Mich, OSU, nebby.
It's harder to recruit to Northwestern than it is to Iowa. However, that gap is smaller than the one that exists between Michigan/OSU and Iowa.
Really, Northwestern is who we think them to be: mediocre. Their records over the last decade have reflected that. They're rarely terrible but they're rarely one of the best teams in the conference.
For the most part, you could say the same thing about Iowa over the last decade except Iowa has shown the ability to jump up into that elite tier for a season or two.
okeefe4prez
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Fitz was 31 years old and was promoted to HC weeks before the 2006 began when his mentor, Randy Walker, passed away suddenly. He went on to finish 4-8. And let's be honest, if Kurt Ferentz doesn't get his defense to show up against Indiana this week and muster up some degree of offense against Purdue, he is staring down the barrel of 4-8 in his freaking 14th season.
And another thing, Fitz is dealing with unreal academic restrictions that have left him basically competing with Stanford, Notre Dame and Vanderbilt and for quality players. He has a hard time getting guys qualified, and that benefits Iowa. Remember four star recruit Faith Ekakitie? Couldn't qualify at NU, yet we took him with open arms. And Fitz can't bring in Juco players unless the kid would have qualified as a freshman for admission into NU. That is bascially 0.00000000000001% of kids in Juco. And Fitz has a decrepit stadium that draws ball park 25,000 home fans per game.
Fitz's name will be mentioned for many big time openings in the coming years, Kurt's not so much. I wouldn't call the guy overrated at all, he's operating with both hands tied behind his back and he's crushed Ferentz head to head and has a record on par with Captain Kurt's. Calling Fitz overrated is simply claiming you don't know crap about college football.
okeefe4prez
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5. Iowa is his Super Bowl.
I stand by my statement. Funny how you bring up Stanford. They're pretty good, yes? You'd think if Fitz was an elite coach, he'd have at least one year where he contended for a Big 10 title in a time where the Big 10 wasn't very good. His team is sitting good right now so maybe this is that year and I'll have to change my stance. Even the Zooker got to a BCS game.
Facts and logic are stupid.
okeefe4prez
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Yeah, Stanford had some good years because they have a rich local talent pool and they have a beautiful campus in California. Stanford and ND suck up a vast majority of the highly ranked recruits who have high ACT or SAT scores. And ND has tradition and a huge fanbase. Northwestern is at a massive disadvantage to those two programs for football recruits.
And yes, Zook got to a Rose Bowl (which Kurt hasn't) in a year in which the Big Ten sucked because through some miracle Juice Williams was able to convert like 7 straight first downs at Columbus. Zook actually won at C-bus, which Kurt never has and never will. Thing is, you could put Kurt in charge of Northwestern and he'd get throttled. You put Fitz in charge there and he fields respectable teams. Heck, the only team Kurt could run successfully is probably 'bama because of their talent, but Fitz would be very good at many programs.
I should have known you were trolling me. That's my bad.
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alexzelada
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So you're saying he is worse than KF? Okay, then why can't KF beat him more than 2 times out of 7? Shouldn't the "better" coach win when he goes up against the "inferior" coach?
okeefe4prez
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No, what's bad is the Northwestern and Iowa State have materially better coaches than Iowa yet everyone's response is either to downplay the other coaches or puff up Kurt because he has more Insight Bowl wins. It's called denial. I was there a few years ago. Next will come anger. Let it out.
Read the board, very few of us have attained acceptance. You will get there with time.
Heck, Michigan fans didn't take too kindly to constantly losing to the likes of Michigan State, Iowa, OSU and Wisconsin. They didn't go into denial, they bought out their coach and brought in a new coach. Yet when we constantly lose to directional Michigan schools, Iowa State and Northwestern, the response is "WE WON THE OUTBACK BOWL THAT ONE TIME."
