Junior Seau

[AreWeThereYet]

to the people posting the stuff about brain disease, etc. isn't that an assumption at this time?

and if the guy has the ability to chose how to end himself, to text his goodbyes, it would seem he would have the ability to get help. but, as marcellus wiley said in an interview - he never wanted anyone to know about his pain (fooball related), so this pain would only follow suit - he kept it to himself. no one knew about this. he decided to handle this in his way, what was best for him and not everyone else. that is why it is a selfish act, IMO.

the after effects of his act are unbelievably destructive. his kids will never get over it (unless they had absolutely no relationship with him, and that is hard to believe, based on the anecdotal stories of the man).

Obviously, confirmation of brain disease is needed. I don't think it is idol speculation based on what is know of his history and recent actions.

I didn't argue that there isn't a moral imparitive against suicide both in terms of yourself and family & friends. As you have stated, there are tragic consequences. We aren't arguing about a legal case either. That's something else altogether.

Is the act "Selfish"? Not by any normal definition of selfish? He isn't considering others, but way too many other things going on, to ascribe the act to "selfishness". Also, to say someone is capable of making decisions does not guarantee he is a state of mind to do so.

Most people are struck by the degree of tragedy. He did choose to play in a violent sport for over two decades. There is such a thing a unintended consequences, though. I doubt he ever thought the consequences might be so high.

 

[ColoradoHAWKEYE]

You can define it however you want, but it is an unanswered act that is brought on by someone who "chooses" to affect the loved ones left to decipher why. Who "chooses" to keep his/her depression covered up usually for personal pride reasons. So someone depressed may know they are not right, and knowingly or not, they "chooseâ€Â￾ not to get help or reach out. You never truly know why they chose those reprecussions because, again, they have chosen an out without sharing, and then get stuck in a moment.

It leaves friends and family members numb and fraught with unknown answers. These affect you forever, yet they are gone, regardless of the underlying reasons that led them to this dark place.

Depression can go hidden for a period of time, but should be addressed, the same as if they were found bleeding with an open wound, if discovered. It is natural for humans to try to cover up what they feel are internal flaws or imperfections, and not get help on their own.

Unfortunately, even if it sounds like a bad negative word, suicide is usually someones way of harboring inside their personal pain and is very selfish in that regard. It affects all those closest, because there usually is no detailed explanation left behind (even with a detailed letter).

suicide IS selfish and an easy out, because it is so final and sad and hard to completely understand the internal battles that person fought.

I pray for his family and all families that are left to deal with such outcomes. It will affect them forever!

 

[racerhawk]

3 kids. selfish act.

I don't think you understand suicide very well.