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VintageHawkeye
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I met Junior whilst skiing at Deer Valley, Utah about 15 years ago. He was very friendly.
(kewl story, vintage, tell it again)
(kewl story, vintage, tell it again)
Junior Seau
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clicheusername3
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he dead
Anybody who is to the point in their life where death seems like the only answer, is dealing with some serious issues. Issues which, on the surface, to many of us may seem almost trivial.
But please keep in mind, much like a person's brain will think it is right to call what Seau did was selfish, or for me to think I am right to preach tolerance, in Junior's mind, it was the right thing to do.
It makes one wonder how a man of his stature and fame could have so many demons. And yet, no one saw this coming?
But please keep in mind, much like a person's brain will think it is right to call what Seau did was selfish, or for me to think I am right to preach tolerance, in Junior's mind, it was the right thing to do.
It makes one wonder how a man of his stature and fame could have so many demons. And yet, no one saw this coming?
imported_ankle23
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that's the guilt part.
and, i'm sure the driving off of the cliff could be classified as foreshadowing...
HawkPrdatr40
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Don Norton killed Don Norton.
sportstalent
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People who commit suicide without any warning are the most troubled people...in the public eye nothing appears wrong, even to their own families.
What sucks about it the most is everyone blames themselves at some point for not seeing something and couldn't help. It makes one feel like it was their fault and unfortunately that is the emotion that is left.
What sucks about it the most is everyone blames themselves at some point for not seeing something and couldn't help. It makes one feel like it was their fault and unfortunately that is the emotion that is left.
cibula11
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Heard this to from a co-working, but has it been confirmed? I figured it hadn't since there was no note left.
Cheese
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i saw several tweets saying that, but nothing on the news or anything.
Cheese
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wow...just found an amazing tribute video that shows him playing ukulele at the USC spring game just over two weeks ago. Worth the watch
USC Remembers Junior Seau - YouTube
USC Remembers Junior Seau - YouTube
DTF
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Incredibly narrow minded view of CTE. It's not an inability to live with problems, it's not depression. Depression is just a symptom. There is no cure, the neurons in your brain get rewired and is basically like getting Alzheimers/Dimensia at too early an age. This isn't "Life is hard, goodbye cruel world". This isn't "Take your prozac and you'll be OK". People make illogical decisions, alienate family members, and are in just a different world. There's no treatment and right now the only way to tell it's affected someone is after they've died, which is usually at an unnaturally early age.
Quit being so F-ing naive if you're unfamiliar with the disease.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uKIf1crfK4]OTL: Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy - YouTube[/ame]
Quit being so F-ing naive if you're unfamiliar with the disease.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uKIf1crfK4]OTL: Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy - YouTube[/ame]
HawkeyeDug
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One of my brother's good friends older brother took his own life. When I found out I was, to say the least, confused. Just a couple of weeks earlier my brother and his friend had graduated from college and this guy was the life of the party, friendly as anyone, hilariously funny, and appeared to be very happy in life. I don't think anyone who knew him had any inclination that there was something wrong. Mental illness is something that is vastly misunderstood. I get it that you might think that suicide is taking the easy way out, or selfish, but you obviously don't understand what is going on in the brain.
trapperjon
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No one knows what was going on in his mind, life or if the blows to his brain had anything to do with his ultimate choice.
I do know that when I hit my knees tonight that a few words will be thrown his way. I ask that you do the the same.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVUXPjFWfX4&feature=youtube_gdata_player]MASH (funeral scene) Suicide is painless - YouTube[/ame]
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I do know that when I hit my knees tonight that a few words will be thrown his way. I ask that you do the the same.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVUXPjFWfX4&feature=youtube_gdata_player]MASH (funeral scene) Suicide is painless - YouTube[/ame]
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HawkeyeFever
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My impression is that there is speculation that brain examination was Seau's intention because his death closely mirrors that of Dave Duerson's in 2011.
Junior Seau's Dementia Was Predicted By Scientist Studying Dave Duerson's Brain - Miami News - Riptide 2.0
DexterMorgan
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DuffMan
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Didn't you also meet Stevie Hicks?
AreWeThereYet
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In a sense you are correct. One does ultimately have a discussion to make. That decision has consequences. The ultimate consequence suicide is you’ve just erased yourself from everyone’s lives. You’re just a memory now. You have no active participation in the destiny of your family and children.
That doesn’t say anything about a persons mental state or circumstance. In the case of pathological brain disease someone’s capacity to make decisions may be severely compromised. Emotional state and impulse control can also be profoundly effected as well, which can lead to some irrational decisions, very unfortunate irrational decisions.
What rankles people about this sort of comment is the moral high handedness, snap moral judgments being offered along with pronouncements of no empathy. They complain the loudest when the PC crowd acts similarly, both acting as if no one else around has any principles. The religious-moral crowd has its own noxious style though, it’s like watching male cats take a big stinking spray to mark up territory for themselves, “I’m here, I’m here, This is what I’m aboutâ€.
imported_ankle23
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to the people posting the stuff about brain disease, etc. isn't that an assumption at this time?
and if the guy has the ability to chose how to end himself, to text his goodbyes, it would seem he would have the ability to get help. but, as marcellus wiley said in an interview - he never wanted anyone to know about his pain (fooball related), so this pain would only follow suit - he kept it to himself. no one knew about this. he decided to handle this in his way, what was best for him and not everyone else. that is why it is a selfish act, IMO.
the after effects of his act are unbelievably destructive. his kids will never get over it (unless they had absolutely no relationship with him, and that is hard to believe, based on the anecdotal stories of the man).
and if the guy has the ability to chose how to end himself, to text his goodbyes, it would seem he would have the ability to get help. but, as marcellus wiley said in an interview - he never wanted anyone to know about his pain (fooball related), so this pain would only follow suit - he kept it to himself. no one knew about this. he decided to handle this in his way, what was best for him and not everyone else. that is why it is a selfish act, IMO.
the after effects of his act are unbelievably destructive. his kids will never get over it (unless they had absolutely no relationship with him, and that is hard to believe, based on the anecdotal stories of the man).
