Judging Brian Ferentz in Year 1

The similarities between 2012 and 2017 are actually pretty striking. In 2012, Iowa hired Greg Davis of Texas fame to be their offensive coordinator. He implemented a new offense, new terminology, and worked to incorporate Iowa's run first mentality into the new scheme. He was 4-2 going into a home game with Penn State, then lost two offensive linemen in game seven. That team never won another game. James Vandenburg was chased, harassed, and relegated to an also ran QB after a promising junior campaign.

Enter 2017, Brian Ferentz is hired. He promises a similar style but is determined to throw the ball vertically, while continuing the running success from the 2016 campaign. He loses two offensive linemen early in the season, starts two freshmen at tackle and the struggles against top flight competition were evident. Here is where the similarities end...the team wins 8 games including a bowl game. He takes a first year starting QB and manages him to a very successful first year campaign. Looking just at the numbers, it was one of the best in Iowa history. The problem, when you start that many young players at all the skill positions, minus running back, and two freshmen offensive linemen, you have major bouts of inconsistency that just kill you. That was 2017 in a nutshell. You saw what the future could look like (OSU, second half Penn State), but execution and errors held you back.

I'll admit, the 2017 defense was much better and obviously impacted the wins...but when you compare the similarities and the starts to their tenure...maybe we should cut Brian some slack and see how 2018 turns out.

To be completely fair to the team, it was DC Phil Parker's first year as well. Yes, he was in the Iowa program and they promoted from within. That is most likely why the defense was not as good in 2012 as it was in 2017. Five years of experience made Parker a better DC.
 
GD Total Offense Ranking(1st year)= 114
BF Total Offense Ranking(1st year)= 116

Neither of these two took over an offense that was shorthanded like KOK did in '99. Reading all the excuses in this thread though, it sounds like Brian took over an offense full of 9 year old midgets.

Just to be clear:

Brian in 2017: 329 ypg total offense, 28.2 ppg, #105.
Davis in 2012: 310 ypg total offense, 19.3 ppg, #116.
(Stats from ESPN.com)

Neither was good. But Brian was better.
 
Just to be clear:

Brian in 2017: 329 ypg total offense, 28.2 ppg, #105.
Davis in 2012: 310 ypg total offense, 19.3 ppg, #116.
(Stats from ESPN.com)

Neither was good. But Brian was better.
Why Iowa fans have high standards....
 
Why Iowa fans have high standards....

So my saying that neither was good but Brian was better is an example of high standards?

The same type of statement can be made about a lot of things. Two bad things can be compared and unless they are EXACTLY the same, one is always better than the other; still doesn't make either one good. Can you not comprehend this?
 
Why Iowa fans have high standards....

I don't think anyone is going to pretend Iowa has been a good offensive team over the last decade...because they haven't been. However, total offense is a pretty misleading stat. When Iowa was ranked 22nd in total offense back in 2005 they averaged 30 points per game. This year they averaged 28.2 points per game.

Hell back in 2006 Iowa had the "27th ranked offense in the country"...yet went 6-7 and only scored 23.8 points per game.

This year Alabama has the 27th ranked total offense but scores 38 points per game

Its not the amount yards you gain, its what you do with them. My wife has a similar quote
 
It's astonishing that we're even discussing the fact we have an OC with no experience calling the plays at Iowa. Probably the only P5 program that would allow this to happen. I don't care if it is his first year, our offense was 116th in the nation. That is pathetic anyway you slice it. He has no business being our OC. The standards and expectations are so friggin low here that people will be happy to just get in the top 100 for offense next year. What a joke.
 
The similarities between 2012 and 2017 are actually pretty striking. In 2012, Iowa hired Greg Davis of Texas fame to be their offensive coordinator. He implemented a new offense, new terminology, and worked to incorporate Iowa's run first mentality into the new scheme. He was 4-2 going into a home game with Penn State, then lost two offensive linemen in game seven. That team never won another game. James Vandenburg was chased, harassed, and relegated to an also ran QB after a promising junior campaign.

Enter 2017, Brian Ferentz is hired. He promises a similar style but is determined to throw the ball vertically, while continuing the running success from the 2016 campaign. He loses two offensive linemen early in the season, starts two freshmen at tackle and the struggles against top flight competition were evident. Here is where the similarities end...the team wins 8 games including a bowl game. He takes a first year starting QB and manages him to a very successful first year campaign. Looking just at the numbers, it was one of the best in Iowa history. The problem, when you start that many young players at all the skill positions, minus running back, and two freshmen offensive linemen, you have major bouts of inconsistency that just kill you. That was 2017 in a nutshell. You saw what the future could look like (OSU, second half Penn State), but execution and errors held you back.

I'll admit, the 2017 defense was much better and obviously impacted the wins...but when you compare the similarities and the starts to their tenure...maybe we should cut Brian some slack and see how 2018 turns out.

So you're saying Brian Ferentz is better than Greg Davis? Have we become so inept on offense that our measuring stick is Greg Davis?
 
So my saying that neither was good but Brian was better is an example of high standards?

The same type of statement can be made about a lot of things. Two bad things can be compared and unless they are EXACTLY the same, one is always better than the other; still doesn't make either one good. Can you not comprehend this?
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So my saying that neither was good but Brian was better is an example of high standards?

The same type of statement can be made about a lot of things. Two bad things can be compared and unless they are EXACTLY the same, one is always better than the other; still doesn't make either one good. Can you not comprehend this?
If the argument doesnt go his way, he's not interested. Year one is filled with other factors. Yet, the numbers show up better under Brian. The PPG is probably the biggest number to factor into success. I'd say a 3-4 year window is fair to judge. I think BF only gets better. Stanley will make it so.
 
I don't think anyone is going to pretend Iowa has been a good offensive team over the last decade...because they haven't been. However, total offense is a pretty misleading stat. When Iowa was ranked 22nd in total offense back in 2005 they averaged 30 points per game. This year they averaged 28.2 points per game.

Hell back in 2006 Iowa had the "27th ranked offense in the country"...yet went 6-7 and only scored 23.8 points per game.

This year Alabama has the 27th ranked total offense but scores 38 points per game

Its not the amount yards you gain, its what you do with them. My wife has a similar quote
THIS. About all that matters is...did you score enough points to win. Looks like we did 8 times. Points per game is the only offensive stat that matters. I wasnt IMPRESSED nor was the staff with the offense, but 28 PPG should win you a lot of games. This year it won us 8. In the end, we could have lost 3 or more games on the season and i count 3 more that we could have won. The offense, while not where you, me or the staff hopes it will be next year and beyond was good enough to win 8 games and close to 11, or 5. Eight and a bowl win. I'll take it this year.
 
I don't really understand the X's and O's - I miss a lot but I get an impression.

My impression is that Iowa was pretty sophisticated with formations and motions. There was a lot of freshness to this offense in that regard.

At times Iowa's use of Tight Ends was lethal for the opponents.

The deep passing game was a bust...they gave it a shot early on in the season...Nate just kept over throwing. So in time they didn't do that much anymore.

Imagine if they hit some of those balls! the margin of victory would have be greater in Games 1-4. And maybe they could have beat jNW and MSU. Things could have been a lot different.

Alas, it is what it is.

Sometimes lackluster and maddening. The OSU game was historic. Overall the season and most of the games were less than thrilling.
 
Come on.

After losing Wadley, and maybe Daniels? In only his 2nd year as OC?? You really can't judge BF on next year either.

Maybe the year after next.

Unless there are injuries. Or graduations. Or a tough schedule.

If we lose both Wadley and Daniels to the draft, and also have to replace both offensive tackles early in the season, we are probably screwed no matter who the OC is.

(For reference Iowa graduated RB LeShun Daniels, Tackle Cole Croston at the end of 2016, than lost Tackle Ike Boettger and Tackle Boone Meyers to leg injuries early this season.)

In my mind at least. The loss of personnel due to both player graduation and injury had a lot to do with how ineffective the running game was compared to the previous year. They did start to use some power blocking later in the season with limited success.

Now an experienced offensive coordinator might have pulled out a couple of those close games. That much I will concede.
 
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In my mind at least. The loss of personnel due to both player graduation and injury had a lot to do with how ineffective the running game was compared to the previous year. They did start to use some power blocking later in the season with limited success.

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Now an experienced offensive coordinator might have pulled out a couple of those close games. That much I will concede.
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I'd give Brian a "B" grade for this season.

Positives: We seemed to figure out some tough opponents (like OSU, NU, and ISU) and had very good QB numbers and TE play. At times Brian's playcalling seemed truly inspired. He was also handicapped by those OL injuries and some execution problems like Stanley missing wide open WR's deep on multiple occasions, drops by receivers, and untimely penalties (we probably beat NW if not for those mistakes). How much more open might the offense had been if Stanley had been able to hit those wide open guys deep? Or if ISM had caught those two long passes he utterly whiffed on? Those things can't be attributed to play-calling.

Negatives: We showed no imagination in using Wadley after the Penn St game. We used him off-tackle too often when we should have used Young (or Butler when healthy), and this was obvious to anyone in Evanston for the NW game, as I was. He was given a lot of short fields and points by the defense with picks, which won't happen every year. We still don't run enough counters, screens, jet sweeps, or QB runs or scrambles. Oddly, the template for success is right in front of us, and it's Wisconsin. Criminy, just copy what they do, it's exactly what we need to do. How much easier does it need to get? Hopefully with experience, more confidence, and a freer hand Brian is able to pattern us a little more after the Badgers, cuz that's where I think we need to go.
 
Well, Brian's starting center just declared for the draft. I guess the list of excuses keeps growing.
 
So you're saying Brian Ferentz is better than Greg Davis? Have we become so inept on offense that our measuring stick is Greg Davis?
Greg Davis won a National Championship at Texas. Greg Davis led Iowa to it's only undefeated regular season...and an eyelash away from getting to the playoff and an absolute beating from Alabama. I'm ok with the comparison actually.
 

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