Really? Izzo doesn't need walkons at all and they aren't ever going to play meaningful minutes. The amount of skill you need to walk on is not great.
Jack Hoiberg To Walk On At Michigan State.
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Really? Izzo doesn't need walkons at all and they aren't ever going to play meaningful minutes. The amount of skill you need to walk on is not great.
Adam
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I'm didn't mean to criticize your opinion or perspective on the topic. I just like to play devil's advocate. Your opinion has merit and I'm sure that the majority sees it that way. I came from a well to do family, but my father was a "driver". Getting into college wasn't an achievement in his eyes. He payed for my first year all the same, but I was the black sheep for the entire year until I landed an academic scholarship my Sophomore year. I also got nothing for Xmas that year. My father said my present was not having a 20k student loan. My brother on the other hand got a new Mustang that Xmas, but he was carrying a 4.0 GPA into his Senior year in pre- med so I always was the disappointment.
MelroseHawkins
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They are still selective in the walk-ons, and the more successful programs will be even more selective. They just don't let anybody walk on who wants to play. They are going to be the scout or grey team practicing against the core players so the coaches want the best walk ons they can get for competition in practice.
You're right, he doesn't need walkons but he still wants quality walkons for his program. Getting a walkon invite at a Div 1 college program is still an achievement. Cripes, this isn't intramural sports the way you make it sound like.
MelroseHawkins
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Really, your brother got a freaking Mustang!
Hell, my parents didn't even have a college fund for me at all. Was on my own. I would say we were middle class. I had everything I needed growing up. I also started working at age 15 as I know because I used to drive my moped to work after school and on weekends until I got my license. Been working ever since. I also bought my first car when I got my license. A lot of this made me who I am I believe and I think prepared me for my adult years.
My wife, on the other hand, her parents paid for 4 years of college for each of their kids. If they had to go more than 4, the rest had to be paid for by the kid. I think all of them graduated in 4 years.
It's all good. Some families have no problem playing favorites for whatever reasons... Learning the life isn't fair lesson slaps everyone one way or another it seems like... That had to be rough no matter how ya cut it at that stage of your life though.
Fryowa
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He could have just gone the Richard Pitino route. From what I understand the guy has never shot a free throw in his life and he's a Big Ten HC.
docholihawk
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When I left for college my stepfather was a very wealthy man. Gas was only .50 cents a gallon. I once asked him to loan me two dollars for gas. He told me no. College tuition, no way. From the time I was in 8th grade I never got a dime from my parents. I worked from the time I was 14 and when I needed help I was told to figure it out. Everybody's different. Once I grew up I was glad things weren't given to me. It was a different time.
Adam
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I had a hybrid childhood. My parents were wildly inconsistent with positive rewards, but if you weren't towing the line the way my father saw fit you definitely weren't getting anything. I ended up marrying the girl my father wanted (from the family he wanted) and he paid for a 10 day honeymoon to Rome. He also bought us our first house. I never made a single mortgage payment for 3 years, but he also sold the house for a 40k profit after I renovated several rooms, remodeled the kitchen, updated the electrical and built a wrap around 450 Sq ft deck. I saw none of that profit lol.
He probably could pursue whatever he wanted later with his dads approval. His dad is one rich guy.
Adam
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Damn bro, that is harsh. I agree learning to accomplish things by yourself without hand outs is important, but 14 is to young in my book to start corrupting a kids sole with the burdens of real life. I am much more of the mindset 16, 17 or 18. I also believe that kids should receive a minimum allowance to help teach them the value of money and making wish choices on how to allocate it. It doesn't seem right to me that you even had to ask for a "loan" of 2 dollars. Yes it may have made you a strong independent adult, but I believe there are multiple ways to skin that cat. That is just a bit to much tough love for my taste.
Totally agree and there's a middle ground there some place between tough love and just giving them everything they want. The country and how people are raised has changed a ton in just a couple of generations... There are middle class families that I know that have taken out loans themselves and stretched themselves out to pay for their childrens schooling out of what feels like obligation. It's can be looked at as a noble thing to do as far as setting yourself back so your kids can get an education and not be handcuffed with a huge debt. The cost of schooling is off the charts crazy depending on where you go and what your going for. Making schollies worth their weight in gold as far as I'm concerned...
Adam
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Speaking of change. The world will change drastically over the next 30 years. It is likely that human life expectancy will be increased by 20%. It is also a foregone conclusion that the manual labor jobs will be reduced by 90% Customer service jobs by 75% and observation and Analytical jobs by 50% with the inevitable advancement of AI. Said advancements are projected to reduce the saturation of higher learning. Some projections are as liberal to estimate a 40% decrease of college institutions. I sure hope the University of Iowa will make it through, but since we specialize in Business, Medicine and Creative writing/Journalism I think that we will be ok. That said, my kids will be focusing on programming and coding for their youth. A few text books and a handful of raspberry pi computers is an excellent starting point. My 4 year old daughter can already recite the steps of programming. She understands that programming controls all of her fancy toys and she can't wait to be able to program manipulations (already a master mine crafter lol). This is the only future employment skill that I can guarantee will not be going away. My hope is that the need for college won't be necessary and that she will be able to chose whether to go or not with no impact to her future earning potential.
MelroseHawkins
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My brother-in-law is a radiologist. We were talking at Easter, and he said even the radiology profession could be affected in the future with automation. A computer program would read the scans and spit out a diagnosis. Years down the road and prob won't affect him, but could be coming.
Yes, I suppose I need to be really cognizant when helping my boys figure out their future.
No doubt... Here's a job I wish I'd have gone into. Plumbing. That's not going anywhere and those guys can charge just about whatever they want to... Also mechanics for big trucks. When those trucks break down on the road away from home with a load on they are totally at the mercy of the closest shop. Happens every day and they jack up their rates when they smell desperation.
The restaurant industry is what blows my mind. You can't throw a rock and not hit a fast foot joint let alone a sit down place. I just about never go out to eat I mean 5 times a year or so tops with family. Yet I know there's people that eat out more than that many times a week.
SteveGarvey1
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Couldn't have detailed a more contrasting picture to the entitlement-laden society we live in today. Young people today want a lot, including free tuition. Many of them anyway.
trj
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A good certified diesel mechanic is like gold, if you are a shop that has one, you lock that dude up.....you take care of him.
Think about all the fast food pizza chains, except in rural areas, they are all delivery/carry-out. I guess you know people that spend a lot of time at Chilis/Applebees
trj
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There are so many options now that were simply not there when I was growing up. Where I live I have 4 or 5 barbecue joints to choose from all within a 7-8 mile radius that didn't exist when i was growing up..... That doubles for Asian food.
docholihawk
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The way I was raised was not uncommon in my day. I'm 58. I only knew 1 person in high school who was a guy that had a car bought for him. I wasn't nearly as strict when raising my son who's 34. I bought him his first car which he trashed. He was on his own for the next car. My mom was doing chores on the farm when she was 4. Every generation has it easier. Now when I drive by the high school most of the kids drive nicer cars than I do. In 20 years I could very well be the get off my lawn type of guy.
