Its official, NBA>MLB

[shonblatt]

In case some of you couldnt figure it out on your own. the World Series posted its lowest TV ratings ever.

USA TODAY

Compare that to the NBA Finals which averaged over 10 the last 2 years. the discrepancy is even larger of you look at viewers 25-54 which is the sweet spot for most marketers. Baseball is dying folks, and the NBA has replaced it as the second most popular team sport.

The NBA finals have had better ratings the past two years because Lebron was in the finals both years. The World Series had lower ratings this year because there was little national interest in a Tigers/Giants matchup.

Ratings are purely match up-driven and say little about the overall popularity of the sport as a whole. A Yankees/Cardinals World Series would have received much higher ratings.

So your logic is flawed.

 

[Blackout]

Who wants to see Lebron cry and complain when his flop goes unnoticed? NBA and the NHL are pretty much on the same level of who gives a ****.

 

[GhostofBTT]

I don't think the "foreign born/unrelatable" players thing holds any water. The NBA is composed of foreign guys and young urban black men. Very little relatable about that to the average fan.

Not so much that they are "unrelatable", it's just you don't know who they are. The young black man the 40 year old guy in Lisle is "relating to" was the subject of a recruiting war with top schools, played twice a week on ESPN while at Louisville, and then had his game inspected for three months before the draft.

The latino baseball player was signed out of Venezuela as a 17 year old. Spent 6 years playing minor league baseball in places no one cares about like Burlington, Iowa, Clinton, Iowa, and Des Moines, Iowa. No one knows who he is. He's liek a phantom who appeared out of nowhere.

 

[hawkfan33]

Not so much that they are "unrelatable", it's just you don't know who they are. The young black man the 40 year old guy in Lisle is "relating to" was the subject of a recruiting war with top schools, played twice a week on ESPN while at Louisville, and then had his game inspected for three months before the draft.

The latino baseball player was signed out of Venezuela as a 17 year old. Spent 6 years playing minor league baseball in places no one cares about like Burlington, Iowa, Clinton, Iowa, and Des Moines, Iowa. No one knows who he is. He's liek a phantom who appeared out of nowhere.

You're greatly overestimating how much the casual fan follows recruiting and college basketball. Most NBA rookies are only well known if they have a big NCAA tournament run. There aren't a lot of casual fans who know Andre Drummond or Mo Harkless. They will know about Anthony Davis because of all the attention he got in March, but most rookies are no more well known than the top minor league prospects.

 

[Hawkeye11en1]

You're greatly overestimating how much the casual fan follows recruiting and college basketball. Most NBA rookies are only well known if they have a big NCAA tournament run. There aren't a lot of casual fans who know Andre Drummond or Mo Harkless. They will know about Anthony Davis because of all the attention he got in March, but most rookies are no more well known than the top minor league prospects.

Lottery picks are very well known. Much more than the one prospect in baseball people know.

 

[GhostofBTT]

They will know about Anthony Davis because of all the attention he got in March, but most rookies are no more well known than the top minor league prospects.

That's absolutely false. Look at the top Superstars today. Everyone knows the top players before they go into the league. I am not saying that the casual fan is intimately aware of all of their details. However, they know who they are and where they're from.

The World Series MVP was some guy named Pablo Sandoval. Who the hell is Pablo Sandoval? I don't know what he plays, if he's any good, or how long he's been in the league.

 

[Hawkeye11en1]

That's absolutely false. Look at the top Superstars today. Everyone knows the top players before they go into the league. I am not saying that the casual fan is intimately aware of all of their details. However, they know who they are and where they're from.

The World Series MVP was some guy named Pablo Sandoval. Who the hell is Pablo Sandoval? I don't know what he plays, if he's any good, or how long he's been in the league.

See your avatar. That's the Panda.

 

[kicker22]

Not so much that they are "unrelatable", it's just you don't know who they are. The young black man the 40 year old guy in Lisle is "relating to" was the subject of a recruiting war with top schools, played twice a week on ESPN while at Louisville, and then had his game inspected for three months before the draft.

The latino baseball player was signed out of Venezuela as a 17 year old. Spent 6 years playing minor league baseball in places no one cares about like Burlington, Iowa, Clinton, Iowa, and Des Moines, Iowa. No one knows who he is. He's liek a phantom who appeared out of nowhere.

Those of us from the Burlington area totally agree, but please don't rope Des Moines into the same conversation as Burlington and Clinton. Des Moines is a much more appealing city then the other two towns mentioned.

 

[GhostofBTT]

Those of us from the Burlington area totally agree, but please don't rope Des Moines into the same conversation as Burlington and Clinton. Des Moines is a much more appealing city then the other two towns mentioned.

I've been to all three, and compared to normal places, Neck Moines is not a place anyone has ever cared about.

Nobody has ever gotten famous while living in Des Moines.

 

[hawkfan33]

Lottery picks are very well known. Much more than the one prospect in baseball people know.

That's not true at all. There's a couple well known lottery picks each year, but most are just as anonymous to the casual fan as a random baseball prospect. Damian Lillard, Terence Ross and Leonard Meyers are not household names.

 

[kicker22]

You're greatly overestimating how much the casual fan follows recruiting and college basketball. Most NBA rookies are only well known if they have a big NCAA tournament run. There aren't a lot of casual fans who know Andre Drummond or Mo Harkless. They will know about Anthony Davis because of all the attention he got in March, but most rookies are no more well known than the top minor league prospects.

Sorry anyone who watches college basketball knew who uni-brow was long before March. The dude was a star all season long. And most rookies are more well known then the top minor league prospects because of exposure. College basketball and even highschool basketball has a nationwide appeal where as minor league baseball is just that a minor league.

When your NBA prospects are going directly from college to the NBA (not including the foreign players drafted) that is much easier to track then a MLB draft pick coming out of a community college and working his way up through the minors for a few years until he finally makes it high enough up the ladder to make a name for himself in Tripple A or MLB. Even the NBA D-league has more recognizable names then minor league baseball.

 

[Blackout]

I've been to all three, and compared to normal places, Neck Moines is not a place anyone has ever cared about.

Nobody has ever gotten famous while living in Des Moines.

We disagree.

 

[hawkfan33]

That's absolutely false. Look at the top Superstars today. Everyone knows the top players before they go into the league. I am not saying that the casual fan is intimately aware of all of their details. However, they know who they are and where they're from.

The World Series MVP was some guy named Pablo Sandoval. Who the hell is Pablo Sandoval? I don't know what he plays, if he's any good, or how long he's been in the league.

False. Dwight Howard was a random high school kid who everyone thought was a huge risk for Orlando to take him over Okafor. Steve Nash was a random guy from a small college. If you say you knew who Dirk was when he got drafted, you're a liar. Andrew Bynum, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili all unkowns. I could go on and on, obviously guys like LeBron, Melo, and Durant were well known before the draft but the vast majority of NBA players aren't.

 

[GhostofBTT]

False. Dwight Howard was a random high school kid who everyone thought was a huge risk for Orlando to take him over Okafor. Steve Nash was a random guy from a small college. If you say you knew who Dirk was when he got drafted, you're a liar. Andrew Bynum, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili all unkowns. I could go on and on, obviously guys like LeBron, Melo, and Durant were well known before the draft but the vast majority of NBA players aren't.

Random high school kids are usually #1 over all draft picks.

 

[hawkfan33]

Random high school kids are usually #1 over all draft picks.

Yes and I forgot how big of a star Kwame Brown was before he got into the league LOL.

 

[clicheusername3]

False. Dwight Howard was a random high school kid who everyone thought was a huge risk for Orlando to take him over Okafor. Steve Nash was a random guy from a small college. If you say you knew who Dirk was when he got drafted, you're a liar. Andrew Bynum, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili all unkowns. I could go on and on, obviously guys like LeBron, Melo, and Durant were well known before the draft but the vast majority of NBA players aren't.

Seriously there is like 3 months of nothing but mock draft 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 4.0 up to 150.2. Steve Nash actually did have a nice little tourney run with Santa Clara. Dwight Howard was the new Kevin Garnett (and everyone who watches Sportscenter knew about KG when he was coming up and that was all the way back in '94 or '95ish). Basically anyone that watches ESPN knows about the top kids/players including Dirk and Bynum. Parker and Ginobli are poor examples because I don't believe they were even lottery picks.

 

[hawkfan33]

Seriously there is like 3 months of nothing but mock draft 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 4.0 up to 150.2. Steve Nash actually did have a nice little tourney run with Santa Clara. Dwight Howard was the new Kevin Garnett (and everyone who watches Sportscenter knew about KG when he was coming up and that was all the way back in '94 or '95ish). Basically anyone that watches ESPN knows about the top kids/players including Dirk and Bynum. Parker and Ginobli are poor examples because I don't believe they were even lottery picks.

LOL!

 

[DwayneTwill]

The NBA blows. MLB is the best.

 

[trj]

Judging by attendance and profits baseball doesn't have a problem. NBA franchises are the ones losing money, not MLB teams.

Yeah, baseball is a real big hit in Florida. That Latin population down there has done wonders.

 

[BryceC]

False. Dwight Howard was a random high school kid who everyone thought was a huge risk for Orlando to take him over Okafor. Steve Nash was a random guy from a small college. If you say you knew who Dirk was when he got drafted, you're a liar. Andrew Bynum, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili all unkowns. I could go on and on, obviously guys like LeBron, Melo, and Durant were well known before the draft but the vast majority of NBA players aren't.

I don't disagree with your point, but Bynum/Howard would play college ball under the current rules and would have been really well known before the draft. Parker and Ginobili were not lottery picks so they don't fall into the category that Ghost is discussing.