It is time Coach Ferentz

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He has had a great run at Iowa. Turned the program around after Hayden stayed too long. Won a lot of games, won championships. the last few years still winning but not with much excitement and certainly much offense. Bring in Brian to put a breath of fresh air into the offense and it just hasn't happened.
Kirk is going to be 65 and has a chance if we can beat Nebraska (tossup) to go out 9-3 with a good bowl game. Great time to go.
Next year could be tough. Cupboard isn't bare as we have some good young talent but in modern day football QB really is the key. Stanley was not a difference maker, but was more than adequate. Next year???? On top of that the schedule will be a challenge. Purdue Illinois Nebraska and Minnesota are no longer "probable" wins. Add in which looks to be the best Iowa State team in a long time Ohio State, Penn State and Wisconsin and I could see us slip to 6-6 or worse.

Fry stayed too long. This is a great chance for Ferentz to get out on top.

PS If it happens and I doubt it will NO WAY does young Ferentz take over
 
2020 could be a rough year with a new QB and schedule that includes OSU, PSU and MSU. But it gets better in 2021 and beyond.
 
longtimer said:
He has had a great run at Iowa. Turned the program around after Hayden stayed too long. Won a lot of games, won championships. the last few years still winning but not with much excitement and certainly much offense. Bring in Brian to put a breath of fresh air into the offense and it just hasn't happened.
Kirk is going to be 65 and has a chance if we can beat Nebraska (tossup) to go out 9-3 with a good bowl game. Great time to go.
Next year could be tough. Cupboard isn't bare as we have some good young talent but in modern day football QB really is the key. Stanley was not a difference maker, but was more than adequate. Next year???? On top of that the schedule will be a challenge. Purdue Illinois Nebraska and Minnesota are no longer "probable" wins. Add in which looks to be the best Iowa State team in a long time Ohio State, Penn State and Wisconsin and I could see us slip to 6-6 or worse.

Fry stayed too long. This is a great chance for Ferentz to get out on top.

PS If it happens and I doubt it will NO WAY does young Ferentz take over
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It's interesting. His postgame speech vs Minnesota would certainly indicate someone who has thought of the end being near.

College coaches who become emperors are proud, stubborn men who almost end up overstaying their welcome and who almost always go out with indignity.

Seeing how Ferentz treats people, sometimes with smugness and arrogance but more often with integrity and compassion, you wonder if he will be one of the coaches in the minority who truly knows when it's time, like Barry Alvarez or Al McGuire or John Maddon (as a coach)

Every good to great coach thinks they have one more good run in them. Like a slot machine player who thinks the next pull of the handle will deliver the big payout, coaches always think their next move, their next recruit, their next decision will pay off in a big way. I guess it ultimately boils down to how much they still enjoy the grind of the job and the ultimate reward of matching wits with the other guy on Saturday in front of tens of thousands of people. Alvarez, for one, got tired of the grind, tired of chasing recruits, then stopped enjoying the ultimate reward-winning big games. That's when he knew it was time to get out. He retired from coaching just after his 60th birthday.
 
So funny because the same posters who bash Nate are the same ones who are worried about bringing in a new QB next year.

Nate’s been around and had a good college career but it’s possible the successor is just different and maybe more of a gamer. For instance, I think Clifford is a better QB than McSorley at Penn State... it happens!

Iowa has recruited the QB position well recently in my opinion. I’m excited to see Petras with this group of playmakers.
 
2020 could be brutal. You think the O line struggled this year, imaging losing both Wirfs and Jackson. On D, Eppy, Reiff and Lattimore. As the lines go, KFz's teams go.

Nate was good and Petras will be good. But if you can't protect them or run the ball...well..
 
If the next Qb can’t break mid 60s completion %, than don’t expect to see much offense next year.

As crap of an OC that Brian is, i do put a bit of blame on NS not being able to hit open WR

Instead of a offense ranked in the upper 90s or low 100s, maybe they rank in the 70s and that would have been good enough to win the west
 
NikeHawk21 said:
So funny because the same posters who bash Nate are the same ones who are worried about bringing in a new QB next year.

Nate’s been around and had a good college career but it’s possible the successor is just different and maybe more of a gamer. For instance, I think Clifford is a better QB than McSorley at Penn State... it happens!

Iowa has recruited the QB position well recently in my opinion. I’m excited to see Petras with this group of playmakers.
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I'm not the least bit worried about Petras taking over. Broke all kinds of records in high school, and against better competition than Stanley would have faced. Throws a great ball, and I'm willing to bet the accuracy and decision making will be much better. On a side note, the RS freshman that came in for Clifford yesterday almost came to Iowa. He is going to give Clifford a run for the starting spot next year.
 
ask this board after a loss....you will have all kinds of trolls and negative nancies supporting your narrative.
 
I will have to try to listen to KF's post Minny news conference. But I think he stays another 4-5 years.

Alvarez did great and he gave himself the other job as AD. John Madden became one of the top Sunday NFL stars after coaching and probably made better money on air at least after a few years.
 
9-4, 10-3(potentially), 2020??? Is this KF's last mini run? If AJE and Wirfs come back along with Jackson, Gholston and Stone expectations completely change. If any 3 of those 5 come back expectations change.
 
I honestly think KF already knows when he is done and I think it is at the end of this contract unless Mary says otherwise. I think she would be the one voice he would ultimately listen to if she said it is time to go early then he would do it.

As much as we rag on him, I am very nervous about what happens after him. Can we get lucky and find someone that is as consistent as him? Will Iowa ever compete with the blue bloods every year, I kind of doubt it but when You look at Miami, Florida State, Texas, and some of the other once proud programs and how far they have dropped we have had it pretty well here for a long time.

Watch the Nebraska game from 1981 and see how far the complete program, facilities, and players have come. The growth Iowa has had is really pretty awesome compared to where they were Nd the amount of competition
 
He won’t leave this year and won’t want to leave on a down note so he won’t leave after 2020. I would expect he leaves in 2022.
 
We’ve had two coaches over the last 40 years

that’s not normal.

A lot of people worry about the next coach being crap, or being so good they leave after a few seasons....well that’s literally 99% of college football teams

It’s so improbable for Iowa to become a Rutgers or Maryland due to our OOC schedule and the fact that we play Rutgers/Maryland

so more than likely if we get a crappy coach, we go 6-8 wins a year

if we get someone who lights the world on fire how much fun would that be!!?!?

It’s like people expect a coach to stick around for 20 years for the program to be in good standing
 
kameltoez102 said:
I honestly think KF already knows when he is done and I think it is at the end of this contract unless Mary says otherwise. I think she would be the one voice he would ultimately listen to if she said it is time to go early then he would do it.

As much as we rag on him, I am very nervous about what happens after him. Can we get lucky and find someone that is as consistent as him? Will Iowa ever compete with the blue bloods every year, I kind of doubt it but when You look at Miami, Florida State, Texas, and some of the other once proud programs and how far they have dropped we have had it pretty well here for a long time.

Watch the Nebraska game from 1981 and see how far the complete program, facilities, and players have come. The growth Iowa has had is really pretty awesome compared to where they were Nd the amount of competition
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As pissed off as I get when we lose and I see totally incompetent offense, the thought of Kirk getting replaced while Barta is AD absolutely terrifies me. Fact is, for every Dabo and Nick, there are dozens, if not hundreds, of Charlie Weis/Jim Walden type of coaches. And guys on the level of Chryst, Ferentz, Dantonio, that can run a second tier program fairly consistently and on occasion take down the big dogs are pretty rare as well. Just maintaining a program at Iowa's level is quite a challenge in the modern landscape.
 
DBAHawkFan said:
We’ve had two coaches over the last 40 years

that’s not normal.

A lot of people worry about the next coach being crap, or being so good they leave after a few seasons....well that’s literally 99% of college football teams

It’s so improbable for Iowa to become a Rutgers or Maryland due to our OOC schedule and the fact that we play Rutgers/Maryland

so more than likely if we get a crappy coach, we go 6-8 wins a year

if we get someone who lights the world on fire how much fun would that be!!?!?

It’s like people expect a coach to stick around for 20 years for the program to be in good standing
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No, sorry bud, but there are dozens of programs that would trade places with Iowa in a heartbeat. If you are a program like Iowa and you make a bad hire, you can wipe the program off the map within 2 years. Look at Purdue post-Tiller. Look at Illinois when Guenther made a bad hire. Yeah, you can replace a bad hire, but you have to swing for the fences more and more with each successive hire because no one worth a shit wants to walk into a tire fire.

There aren't many legendary coaches left. Ferentz is one of them. Guys like Bowden, Frank Beamer, Phil Fulmer, Tom Osborne, those dudes are gone and Iowa is one of very few programs that replaced on legend, Fry, with another. Just think of how many former elite programs have been flushed down the toilet by a shitty hire. Tennessee, USC, Florida State, Florida (albeit maybe coming back finally), Texas, Michigan.
 
It's going to be a difficult transition when Kirk does retire. From what I hear from the players is that many come to be part of a big family. I do believe that Kirk has puts the interest of a player ahead of his own interest. Over the years I've witnessed some coaches that "use" a player for his own interest by ignoring off the field issues, tolerating bad on field behavior, and not worrying about academic progress. Overall I think he has done a good job of being able to identify athletes that can be molded into positions they were never expected to play. The latest being Linderbaum at center. This approach has led to a lot of success. I just hope that culture isn't lost when a new coach is named.

I don't think anyone will know, not even Barta, when Kirk will announce he is retiring. It is on the foreseeable horizon but I think it will be determined by events outside the Stadium and in the same way John Beilein left Michigan. When the athletes have the ability to get paid for their likeness business starts it will ruin college football. The transfer rule changes are already impacting team makeups. When you have spent two years developing a player and having them poached by another coach then it is time to reconsider your career path.
 
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