Is Oregon Going To Take Iowa Seriously?

On the other hand, Donny Patterson always make an interesting point. He says regardless of Iowa's passing game deficit to other teams, you never want rain in Kinnick. His point is that Iowa's greatest advantage at home is always the deafening noise. And that it's never as loud when people have rain jackets and ponchos on, because inevitably some people don't take their hands out as much to clap or make noise.
I've been to Penn State for a whiteout and I can say it's not as loud as Kinnick gets. It's way bigger and more spread out from the field, and with Kinnick being half underground and right close to the field there aren't many stadiums that match it.

I thought Michigan would be loud when I went there but it ain't. ABC loves to make it sound that way on TV but that place is a wet fart of an old timey layout. The shallow angle seating waaaaaay back from the playing surface makes it fizzle out.
 


I've been to Penn State for a whiteout and I can say it's not as loud as Kinnick gets. It's way bigger and more spread out from the field, and with Kinnick being half underground and right close to the field there aren't many stadiums that match it.

I thought Michigan would be loud when I went there but it ain't. ABC loves to make it sound that way on TV but that place is a wet fart of an old timey layout. The shallow angle seating waaaaaay back from the playing surface makes it fizzle out.
Oh for sure. I don't think many disagree. More that Patterson's point is you want the best weather possible in Kinnick to maximize that advantage.
 


A key to being successful is the mindset. Hayden Fry said when he first arrived was the key thing that needed to happen in Iowa City is to change from a losing mindset to a winning one. Believing you can.

Why winners are winners

In almost every field — sports, business, relationships, personal growth — “winners” tend to share a few core traits:

They take responsibility.
Winners see their life as something they can shape. When things go wrong, they ask, “What can I do differently?” not “Who’s to blame?”
  1. They embrace discomfort.
    Growth hurts. Winners understand that. They push through fear, boredom, or pain because they value long-term results over short-term comfort.
  2. They have a vision or purpose.
    Winners usually have a clear “why.” They know what they want — and more importantly, why they want it — which gives them energy when most people quit.
  3. They learn relentlessly.
    Winners rarely see themselves as “finished.” They’re always tweaking, learning, and evolving — which keeps them climbing when others plateau.
Why losers are losers

The term “loser” here isn’t moral or final — it’s about mindset, not worth. But certain patterns are common:

Avoidance of responsibility.

“Losers” often externalize blame: the economy, the system, bad luck, unfair people. That mindset kills initiative.
  1. Comfort addiction.
    Many people trade potential for predictability. The small comforts of mediocrity — TV, routine, excuses — become anesthetics against the discomfort of striving.
  2. Fear of failure (or success).
    It’s safer not to try than to risk being exposed as “not good enough.” So they never climb — they rationalize staying at the base.
  3. No compelling vision.
    Without a sense of purpose, striving feels pointless. And without purpose, “greatness” feels like unnecessary work.
Why it doesn’t bother them

For some people, mediocrity doesn’t sting because they’ve learned to numb the discomfort:

* Rationalization: “I don’t care about that stuff anyway.”
  • Distraction: Constant entertainment or busywork.
  • Comparison: “At least I’m better than them.”
  • Low self-worth: They’ve convinced themselves greatness is for “other people.”
  • Also — not everyone defines greatness the same way. Some find peace in simplicity or routine, and that’s okay. The real tragedy is not being average — it’s settling when something inside you knows you could be more.
Bottom line

Winners win because they decide to — not once, but every day.

Losers lose because they avoid the pain of becoming.

And the biggest difference isn’t talent or luck — it’s hunger.
I think there should be an unwritten rule against using ChatGPT for responses on a chat forum. Going to turn into a bot fight.
 


I think there should be an unwritten rule against using ChatGPT for responses on a chat forum. Going to turn into a bot fight.
Yep. Aside from it being obvious to begin with, the em-dashes are the biggest dead giveaway. It's the first thing college profs look for. ChatGPT has an infatuation with those things. It also puts a space before and after them which no other software really does.

If you're going to try and fool someone with AI, first step in the process is remove em-dashes.

Why do AI models use so many em-dashes?
 




I think there should be an unwritten rule against using ChatGPT for responses on a chat forum. Going to turn into a bot fight.
Actually, let's do a bot fight.

I asked ChatGPT to rebut that AI post by @BigD, below is its rebuttal...only 6 em-dashes.

Redefining What It Means to Be a Winner


The passage “Why winners are winners” presents a seductive but ultimately narrow view of success. It frames life as a competition between “winners” and “losers,” and while it gestures toward personal responsibility and growth, it oversimplifies complex human realities and ignores context, privilege, and differing definitions of fulfillment.


1. Responsibility ≠ Control


The essay claims that winners “take responsibility,” as if every life outcome were within one’s control. But not everyone starts from the same place. Circumstances — social class, race, health, geography, timing — profoundly shape opportunity. A single mother working two jobs to survive may take more responsibility than many CEOs, yet never get labeled a “winner.”
Taking responsibility matters, but so does recognizing the systems that limit or enable one’s agency. Pretending everything is self-determined is not empowerment — it’s denial.


2. Discomfort Isn’t Always Growth


The glorification of discomfort assumes that struggle automatically produces virtue. Sometimes pain is necessary for progress; other times it’s just pain. Rest, leisure, and contentment aren’t signs of mediocrity — they’re essential for mental health and sustainable effort. The obsession with constant “pushing through” creates burnout, not greatness.


3. Vision Isn’t Universal


Not everyone has or needs a “grand purpose.” Many find meaning in relationships, art, community, or simply living well day-to-day. The idea that only those with a bold “why” are winners reflects a hyper-individualistic, productivity-obsessed worldview. A person who quietly cares for an elderly parent or teaches children patiently for decades might embody far more strength and purpose than someone chasing endless “goals.”


4. Learning Isn’t Always About Climbing


Framing life as an endless ladder — where “winners” keep climbing and “losers” plateau — assumes that perpetual striving is superior to contentment. But learning can also mean learning to stop striving, to listen, to appreciate, or to unlearn destructive habits. Growth is not only upward; sometimes it’s inward.


5. The Language of “Losers” Dehumanizes


Even though the passage claims “loser” isn’t moral or final, the label itself carries moral weight. It implies deficiency and worthlessness. People who struggle with fear, comfort, or direction are not “losers”; they’re human. Reducing them to psychological caricatures overlooks trauma, mental illness, systemic obstacles, or simply different values.


6. The Myth of “Hunger”


The idea that “hunger” is the ultimate separator between winners and losers is dangerously romantic. Hunger is not a moral trait; it’s often the product of insecurity or unhealed need. Some of the most destructive leaders in history were driven by hunger. Conversely, many compassionate, wise, and fulfilled people live without constant striving.




In truth:
A “winner” is not someone who dominates or outlasts others, but someone who finds peace between ambition and acceptance. Success isn’t a universal race; it’s a personal alignment between effort, values, and wellbeing.


The tragedy isn’t in being “average” — it’s in measuring your worth by someone else’s scoreboard.
 




Bad weather favors us. They throw a lot. They are faster than us. We want a slow track and a fight in a phone booth with those West Coast softies.
I think the bad weather debate is always moot. It's funny how the home team or any team for that manner ALWAYS thinks the aberrant weather will favor their team. Let's look at this objectively. Oregon is from the NW. It's gets just as cold in the NW and they even prob play in rainy clammy weather more often.

In addition, why would this effect Oregon's players, like WR's more, and not Iowa's defenders?? In bad weather, I always give the offense of either team the advantage. They know what the play is and don't have to react to the play like the D does. Maybe we get an uptick/advantage with our punt or kickoff return game.

Also, in general, wouldn't a team who have perceived better, quicker or more athletic players have the advantage in a bad weather game? I just think the whole bad weather talk for the most part is overrated.

I chuckle when I think that all fans think it is always better for their team to play in it.
 
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Bad weather favors us. They throw a lot. They are faster than us. We want a slow track and a fight in a phone booth with those West Coast softies.
Might wanna check your stats, you're living in the past. Oregon is 107th in the country in pass attempts with 223. Iowa has 188. So Oregon throws the ball 4.3 more times a game than Iowa. They have one of the best O lines in football (like Iowa) and are 9th in the country in rushing offense.

Some of you guys are placing way too much on the weather. If footing is bad, it's bad for both teams and a quicker, more fleet of foot player is probably better at overcoming it. One slip by a defender and a fast ball carrier is gone.
 


Some of you guys are placing way too much on the weather. If footing is bad, it's bad for both teams and a quicker, more fleet of foot player is probably better at overcoming it. One slip by a defender and a fast ball carrier is gone.
Hard disagree. There's more to it than who throws more passes or footing. Lots more.
 


Hard disagree. There's more to it than who throws more passes or footing. Lots more.
Yes and no. I agree that all the players experience the same weather. But, this is Iowa weather. Our kids have much more experience with this type of cold ass, rainy, windy conditions. Its also our field. Presumably our trainers and kids will have a better sense of the right cleats. Our coaches should have a better sense of what plays will work. Finally, while both teams lean on the run, they also have different styles of running. Iowa's is more vertical and between the tackles. Oregon's has more spread concepts. Bad weather makes it more likely that both sides have to tighten the playbook, and we can fight this one in a phone booth. So, I think the weather is far down the list of what is most important, but it is not nothing and it plays in our favor for sure.
 


Hard disagree. There's more to it than who throws more passes or footing. Lots more.
What it is then? Why would Iowa benefit more? Not being a dick, serious question as I hope for an advantage.

I do think Iowa could have an advantage on returns, especially punt returns. I believe I heard that Oregon has not had one punt returned this season which actually blows my mind. Are they going to be used to covering Wetjen if he takes off, if they haven't been doing it? In rainy weather, I definitely see and advantage for Iowa here.
 


Yes and no. I agree that all the players experience the same weather. But, this is Iowa weather. Our kids have much more experience with this type of cold ass, rainy, windy conditions. Its also our field. Presumably our trainers and kids will have a better sense of the right cleats. Our coaches should have a better sense of what plays will work. Finally, while both teams lean on the run, they also have different styles of running. Iowa's is more vertical and between the tackles. Oregon's has more spread concepts. Bad weather makes it more likely that both sides have to tighten the playbook, and we can fight this one in a phone booth. So, I think the weather is far down the list of what is most important, but it is not nothing and it plays in our favor for sure.
But they are from the NW. When I think of the NW, I think of rain and cold rain. Also, they get players from all over as they recruit nationwide. To think all their players come from the NW or just warm climates is hilarious.

Actually, when I think about it, this is NW US weather we will be having in Iowa Saturday. Our 45 degree temps and rain is no different than their rain, IMO. Now Kinnick and our home field atmosphere I agree with you. That's the advantage.

People are acting like we are going to get 8" of snow and with a 30mph wind. That is not going to be the case. Just going to be a little rain. Now, the wind and which QB does better with that will play a part.
 


What it is then? Why would Iowa benefit more? Not being a dick, serious question as I hope for an advantage.

I do think Iowa could have an advantage on returns, especially punt returns. I believe I heard that Oregon has not had one punt returned this season which actually blows my mind. Are they going to be used to covering Wetjen if he takes off, if they haven't been doing it? In rainy weather, I definitely see and advantage for Iowa here.
For starters Iowa as a team and most of their players have a lot of experience playing in shit weather. Both in HS and at Iowa. Oregon doesn't. Since 2023 the coldest game they've played in was 52 degrees in Wisconsin last year and it wasn't raining. Most of their guys of you look at the roster come from AZ, CA, HI, TX, etc. Almost none of them come from cold shitty weather states. I'm sorry, no matter what anyone thinks that makes a difference. Does it mean Iowa will win? Of course not. Is it an advantage have a major variable in your favor? Yes.

It's also going to keep the ball on the ground much more than normal and Iowa's defensive line has the major advantage there. Oregon has a lot of rushing yards, but the big yards they've racked up have been against dog shit teams if you look online at the individual games.

Regarding Wetjen I wouldn't look for anything spectacular there this weekend. Oregon is smart enough to not kick it at him like other teams have, and with the rain I'm pretty sure the message to him this week is secure the ball first and foremost and don't do anything to jeopardize it. My hope is that Iowa keeps them inside their own 30 most of the time if they're punting and at that point a fair catch is the right choice anyway.
 


People are acting like we are going to get 8" of snow and with a 30mph wind. That is not going to be the case. Just going to be a little rain. Now, the wind and which QB does better with that will play a part.
Regardless, rain will keep the ball on the ground and all else aside that favors Iowa.
 


I will also say that temp and wind forecasts are pretty accurate 3 days out. Precip is absolutely not. It could mist all day or it could pour buckets at this point in the week. I'll have rain gear on either way.
 


For starters Iowa as a team and most of their players have a lot of experience playing in shit weather. Both in HS and at Iowa. Oregon doesn't. Since 2023 the coldest game they've played in was 52 degrees in Wisconsin last year and it wasn't raining. Most of their guys of you look at the roster come from AZ, CA, HI, TX, etc. Almost none of them come from cold shitty weather states. I'm sorry, no matter what anyone thinks that makes a difference. Does it mean Iowa will win? Of course not. Is it an advantage have a major variable in your favor? Yes.

It's also going to keep the ball on the ground much more than normal and Iowa's defensive line has the major advantage there. Oregon has a lot of rushing yards, but the big yards they've racked up have been against dog shit teams if you look online at the individual games.

Regarding Wetjen I wouldn't look for anything spectacular there this weekend. Oregon is smart enough to not kick it at him like other teams have, and with the rain I'm pretty sure the message to him this week is secure the ball first and foremost and don't do anything to jeopardize it. My hope is that Iowa keeps them inside their own 30 most of the time if they're punting and at that point a fair catch is the right choice anyway.
Yea, I agree on the Wetjen securing the ball point. He almost fair catch caught that ball he housed against Minny. I don't think he lets that get that close this game. Also, not kicking to him which they have obviously made a point to scheme up to this point this season.
 


I will also say that temp and wind forecasts are pretty accurate 3 days out. Precip is absolutely not. It could mist all day or it could pour buckets at this point in the week. I'll have rain gear on either way.
That misty drenching rain in temps under 55 is just brutal.
 


For starters Iowa as a team and most of their players have a lot of experience playing in shit weather. Both in HS and at Iowa. Oregon doesn't. Since 2023 the coldest game they've played in was 52 degrees in Wisconsin last year and it wasn't raining. Most of their guys of you look at the roster come from AZ, CA, HI, TX, etc. Almost none of them come from cold shitty weather states. I'm sorry, no matter what anyone thinks that makes a difference. Does it mean Iowa will win? Of course not. Is it an advantage have a major variable in your favor? Yes.
This is what I was going to bring up. Most of their players are from warmer and dryer climates. And they are a young team. I agree it won't decide the game but I could see this being a factor.

As a fan, I hate rainy game days.
 






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