In the black and gold blow out last year, gesell had a reverse 2 handed dunk on a fast break.
Is Jok a starter by year end?
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In the black and gold blow out last year, gesell had a reverse 2 handed dunk on a fast break.
OUTofTOWNHAWK
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You said Clemmons wasnt a good shooter. Nobody shot well. So you know that others are going to be better next year but Clemmons wont?
OakRaiders
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I have not seen Jok play much yet. Is there any report on his ability to handle the basketball?? At times I worry about this teams ball handling but I might just be looking for somthing. Love the height and the ability to rebound the ball. Love Love Love rebounds.
I think the decision to not play woody at the end of games cost us a couple wins.
OUTofTOWNHAWK
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IDK hes gets in foul trouble a lot. Hes not a huge scoring threat. He had problems with guys getting in behind him and then giving up and 1s. I think fran used him well. He did very well for a FR center. However there are a lot of guys Id rather have in at the end of a game. This year could be different though.
He also gets rebounds. Something that killed us bad at the end of those close games.
I think Woody was used about right last yr. He would have been a free throw shooting liability late in games and as good as he did on D I think later in games when refs seem to call things tighter he would have been committing fouls. I think he'll play more and be better this year all around. Not sure he'll be a late game guy because of his free throw shooting. But when coach plays situational offense defense subbing I can certainly see him playing on D late.
OLWPAORWWM
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Gesell is a better shooter. This isn't that hard to figure out.
I agree that if they are intentionally fouling at the end of the game you have to get him out. If not I think he should have been in there. Our defense was noticeably worse when he was out late.
OUTofTOWNHAWK
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THats not what you said. You said Clemmons was not a good shooter.
OUTofTOWNHAWK
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Here you go. Why cant Clemmons shoot? Where do you get this info?
OUTofTOWNHAWK
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See this is false also, you are really good at not knowing what youre talking about alt.
I'm right there with ya. I think maybe his conditioning and foul trouble were possible reasons why coach didn't put him in more of those situations too. He was also a true frosh. Just experience wise maybe coach didn't trust him in a certain situations just yet. I haven't heard coach elaborate on any of this really. Those reasons along with free throw shooting just makes sense. I see him playing more this yr though so we'll see.
OLWPAORWWM
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His 33% shooting in league play lead me to believe he is not a good shooter. Did you paradoxically arrive at a different conclusion given the data at hand?
OUTofTOWNHAWK
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You said the team cant afford to sit shooters. So back to my question.....who is Clemmons keeping off the court that was shooting better?
I agree that the reasons he sat out makes sense. But after seeing how those close games played out, it seemed like we would have been better off with him in there. I assume he will finish most games this year.
OLWPAORWWM
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I already answered that question.
TheeHawkeye
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If JO keeps this shooting up then nobody will be taking his minutes.
wundergrape
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...and so begins the revisionism. Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen....
tm3308
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Okay, well let's operate under the assumption that Gesell wouldn't average 40 mpg, if Clemmons weren't on the team, and would have to sit at some point. Who is Clemmons taking minutes from in that scenario? Oglesby?
FTR, Gesell shot 37% in conference play, so it's not like he was significantly better than Clemmons. Better, yes, but not so much better that it's a travesty to give Clemmons significant minutes.
