Which guard, Clemmons or Gessell, is going to come off the bench since Marble would be playing the 2. And who is going to play the 4? Basabe needs to stay coming off the bench, McCabe?
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Which guard, Clemmons or Gessell, is going to come off the bench since Marble would be playing the 2. And who is going to play the 4? Basabe needs to stay coming off the bench, McCabe?
ssckelley
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Jon has mentioned 10-8 as he had @ Penn State as a loss before Frazier got hurt.
But interesting to go back and read some of those predictions as most of us were in the same ball park. I nailed the non conference but I have us 8-10 in conference. I still say 10 wins between conference and BTT gets Iowa into the dance.
STILLBUSTER
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I agree but am becoming more skeptical about getting to 10 conf W's. Purdue is a near must-win for that 10 but just don't see Hawks shooting well enough to beat Purdue on the road. That leaves a sub-par resume of W's the rest of the way, assuming Hawks simply take care of business ...
PU = L (13-7, 2-5)
PSU = W (14-7, 3-5)
@ Minny & Wisky = L's (14-9, 3-7)
NwU @ PSU = W's (16-9, 5-7)
Minny - home = L (this could be a great win, late in the season, but don't think a bad shooting Iowa team is gonna beat a strong D like Minny) (16-10, 5-8)
@ Nebraska (slip-up???), PU - home = W's (18-10, 7-8)
@ Indy = L (18-11, 7-9)
Illannoy & Nebraska = must W's (20-11, 9-9).
Where I thought it was chalk to get 9 conf wins, and a realistic shot at 11, I see some huge hurdles for a bad-shooting team that has 60% of it's starting line up that still needs to hit the "freshman wall".
Agree with Spank, top 3 potential for next year's team. Hopefully, a developmental springboard run in the NIT this year.
Agree with this, although I think Fran's been playing the freshmen less in order to hopefully avoid the "freshman wall", much like he seemed to do with White last year
hawkforlife9
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Freethrows were embarrassing last night.
Both Clemmons and Gessell have had their ups and downs, I don't think they'll hit the freshman wall, just continue to have ups and downs. Woody won't hit a freshman wall either. He's playing okay as a freshman, but hasn't played well enough to consider him hitting a wall.
nationalchamps
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The "freshman wall" excuse is just that, an excuse....most of these guys play more games during their high school years when you add in AAU on top of their high school team than they do this year as a frosh at Iowa.
NC - that may very well be true but you forget the adjustment to "College Life" whether it be in terms of tougher classes requiring more study time, dorm life, and traveling a couple hundred miles prior to hitting the court in some cases and sleeping in a hotel room which can all add up to a very draining experience for some.
clicheusername3
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The step up in pressure is immense though. It's more of a mental wall than a physical wall.
RocknRollface
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Burke, Zeller are gone for sure. Ill bet Oladipo and Hardaway are too. Robinson could even be gone.
BasketballMan
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Homer. Did you just climb out of a cave or what? Take a look at where White stands in the BIG stat wise when it comes to a few things like shooting %, free throw %, points per game, total rebounds, offensive rebounds, etc. No problem calling out players, but, you gotta be kidding me. No. He's not MJ. But try again. "He's not doing any well" shows your ignorance.
bcl20
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I feel you have to have some very good (meaning, that really good players are more important than experience) players to consistently win on the road in college basketball. You have to have people who can overcome the energy boost that comes from playing in front of their own fans, and the ability to shoot in a different atmosphere than they are used to, maybe even someone who can get to the basket consistently, nullifying the uncomfortable shooters background.
We don't really have any really good college basketball players, we have some pretty solid college basketball players, some with the potential to be really good but we just don't have the talent to win in good teams' gyms.
We don't really have any really good college basketball players, we have some pretty solid college basketball players, some with the potential to be really good but we just don't have the talent to win in good teams' gyms.
BasketballMan
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wow. just WOW.
sportstalent
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The three point shot is just one of Iowa's offensive problems.
When it comes down to it, Iowa doesn't have anyone that resembles a "go-to" guy whatsoever.
Now, that is not the worst thing in the world, but when guys that are incapable of that try to...well, then you have how Iowa finished the game when they cut it to 4.
The great thing is that the three freshman have that ability to be the "go-to" guy, maybe not so much this season, but somewhere during next year. Each guy has worlds of ability and is doing a good job right now.
Also, if White would develop his mid-range game some more, he is going to be pretty dangerous.
I still think that this team has an identity issue, they have no "best" player and when they don't focus on ball movement and less dribbling on offense they struggle the most.
Another thing that I see is the reluctance of multiple players being hesitant taking mid-range shots, not just one player that has been singled out way to often. Iowa has to become more efficient, use more head and ball fakes to create better shots without forcing things off the dribble.
tm3308
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This pretty well sums it up, particularly the bit about not having a go-to guy. When they pass the ball well, they have success. Lots of great ball movement against Wisconsin when they built up the lead.
Marble's our best bet off the dribble, but that should be a last resort, not something we turn to with 15 on the shot clock.
sportstalent
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I am beginning to think Clemmons is quickly becoming the best off the dribble.
tm3308
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I should rephrase. Marble is our best bet to score in the paint off the dribble, IMO. Clemmons is the best bet to penetrate and find the open man for a good shot. But I think he'll develop into a guy who can score off the dribble consistently.
sportstalent
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I will agree with you today, we'll see as this season plays out. Clemmons is becoming more aggressive and he is the kind of athlete that can score, but also see the open guy ahead of time. He has been more of a pass first guy when driving, but slowly that has been changing.
The one thing he and other Hawks need to learn is to show your shot so soon when driving, it too often results in a block. Iowa needs to go hard and shoot later and know contact is coming, or a defender is coming, go up much stronger with purpose.
