Iowalaw's Post Game Analysis: Maryland

Adam said:
Everyone is looking for a Brees or Rodgers sure, but there are only ever a handful of guys alive that fit that bill. What do the other 28 teams do for a QB? Just forfeit the season because you don't have a HOF QB? The majority of GM's in the NFL will take the game manager over some project with gunslinger potential because it's a safer bet. They will draft projects with lower round picks and stash them until they know or not if the guy has that special thing. A game manager QB with gunslinger potential is relative gold. I can't even think of a QB drafted in rounds 1 or 2 from the last few years who was anything other than that.
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Nothing personal but I think you have a warped view of what a "game manager" QB is. Yeah the Brady's and Rogers are rare but they can be found and that's what they are drafting hoping they strike lightning in a bottle.
 
InGoodCo said:
Ok, I definitely see your point, and I guess I think he has at least a little bit of that in him. He knows how to sling it in the end zone. What would you consider Big Ben?
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Big Ben is a game manager with gun slinger capabilities. He is definitely an elite game manager and certainly can throw it deep which often coincides with just being a really good QB. If Pittsburgh tried to go air raid more than when needed though it wouldn't work. Big Ben is about 9th best in the league on the long ball. Position 5-10 are debatable but the top 5 are truly locked in.
 
IowaLawWasRight said:
No one on here is bashing Stanley.

The simple fact is, his stats and his win/loss record at Iowa are inconsistent with the narrative that he's a super star.

He has still lost most of the big games he's played in (remember, Iowa lost 5 Big 10 games last year and lost the only Big 10 game this year against a team with a pulse). His stats are good, but do not even put him in the conversation for all-Big Ten. The media and coaches look at far more factor than the number of touchdown passes from the 3 yardline to tight ends.

Fryowa's newly discovered "Big Ben" comparisons are due to ONE game against Maryland where he shrugged off potential sacks. Those moves were awesome, but the resulting comparisons are insanely premature. One game and tall height do not equal NFL Hall of Fame comparisons. Being a clutch QB at the end of close games against good opponents does.
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Damn, Law, you a tough customer.....

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ssckelley said:
Nothing personal but I think you have a warped view of what a "game manager" QB is. Yeah the Brady's and Rogers are rare but they can be found and that's what they are drafting hoping they strike lightning in a bottle.
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No. The term "game manager" has been warped into meaning a less than competent QB. Someone who doesn't have a strong arm. That is not it's original use and therefore I do not accept it.
 
ssckelley said:
Nothing personal but I think you have a warped view of what a "game manager" QB is. Yeah the Brady's and Rogers are rare but they can be found and that's what they are drafting hoping they strike lightning in a bottle.
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Adam said:
No. The term "game manager" has been warped into meaning a less than competent QB. Someone who doesn't have a strong arm. That is not it's original use and therefore I do not accept it.
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I really don't care if you accept it or not, your perception of a game manager is flawed. You're trying to make a case that Brady, and now Big Ben, are "game managers". The game managers in the NFL are QB's like Joe Flacco and Andy Dalton and it really doesn't come down to just arm strength.

I don't expect you to reply back with anything other than disagreement but I'm done with this. Stanley is not a game manager.
 
InGoodCo said:
Only our own fans would call a QB that's thrown 42 TD's in his first 20 games as a starter a "game manager" ...
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That is a great stat. Look at production not a few passes missed high or low or in the turf. He makes a lot of great plays and much fewer mistakes. I hope he is really learning how to run the offense on his own and be able to audible into some bigger play possibilites.
 
Fryowa said:
I know its already in a short time become a cliche, but the kid is almost identical in size, measureables, and style of play to Ben Roethlisberger. It's uncanny even down to how he's always getting hit or grabbed by D-lineman, stays on his feet, and can make throws.

If he can clean up some of the bad decisions leading to picks, and improve accuracy I see him sticking in the NFL as a starter somewhere. Both of those areas can be dealt with through coaching and experience and he's got a year and a half to do it.
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Put nate in an NFL scheme that gets receivers open and he will do great. I think he could tighten up the spiral some so his passes sail true and of course the accuracy needs to improve some but if receivers are open it helps
 
IowaLawWasRight said:
No one on here is bashing Stanley.

The simple fact is, his stats and his win/loss record at Iowa are inconsistent with the narrative that he's a super star.

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I have never read anyone on this site calling NS a superstar. Not really sure where you are getting this idea or putting it on the internet. Most people on this site and elsewhere think he is not ready for Sunday which means they dont think he is a superstar.

Give it up. Or are you just trolling to get replies.
 
For one thing, being a good qb at the college level does not always translate into the pros. It can't.
Lot's of college teams, few roster spots in the NFL.
That said, Nate has all the physical tools and is learning in a pro style system.
He is learning.
Very productive while learning I might add.
 
Adam said:
I still call that a game manager lol. He's had some stupendous games. That is what I refer to as flashes. The thing for me though is can he pass for 4 TD's against a team that has completely shut down the run game? Can he lead a 2 minute drill when you're down? These are things I would not be confident in saying are anywhere close to guarantees.
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<<Can he lead a two-minute drill when you're down?>>

Does last year vs. PSU count? Or ISU to get it to OT?
 
hawkeyebob62 said:
<<Can he lead a two-minute drill when you're down?>>

Does last year vs. PSU count? Or ISU to get it to OT?
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Yes of course they count. Again I am not dissing Stanley. He has had some dominate performances. He has had some gutsy drives. All of these things bode well. He has also had some inconsistencies. Just enough inconsistencies to keep me from being sure that he is a "superstar". Not that any of that matters. What matters right now is that Stanley is the starter and better than anyone else we have. Over the next season and a half. Stanley could easily improve further or he may already be at peak Stanley. These are just the things that we can't know.

Either way Stanley has equaled wins for Iowa and I love him whether or not he ever plays pro.
 
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