Iowalaw's Post Game Analysis: Maryland

[Fryowa]

Iowa ran the ball 52 times Saturday. The game plan effected Stanley, and they threw shorter passes instead of chucking the ball all around. He played conservative cause that's what the coaches asked for with the game plan. Only someone with a bias already built in would come on here and say he laid an egg in this game. He came up empty on 3 drives in the redzone where he normally would throw a TD, the wind was nasty and didn't play a lot of the 2nd half. He's not perfect, no one is, but if you can't see how good he is, you're one of the only ones.

I like Stanley and I'm not a hater. But it's not debatable that he's all or nothing when it comes to performance. When he's on, you're right...he's the best we've had since Chuck Long.

But when he's off he looks like Mullen or Vandenberg...that's not meant to be an insult; it's an honest take on the way he plays during those times. He makes mind-numbingly bad decisions with the ball. A lot of what's saved him this year has been playing shitty defenses. If you go back and rewatch the last three games, count how many passes hit opposing CBs for what should have been easy INTs but got dropped. The reason his INT numbers are low is because guys are dropping them. Iowa loses those games against better opponents. We can't do that sort of thing against teams like Penn State, and if this team want's to make something special out of this year, the "Chuck Long" Stanley has to show up.

I know everyone thinks I hate the Hawks but I don't. I really think this season has the potential to be something great for this program.

--The offense has finally gotten away from 1930-style play.

--The defense is the best we've had since the early 2000s.

--2015 is recent enough that media and recruits still remember it.

--Several Hawks are killing it in the NFL

--Kittle, Fant, and Hockenson are making huge waves and getting the U some national attention.

All of these things are a perfect storm for Iowa to start working itself into the recruiting elite, which is obviously the first and most important step to replacing Wisconsin and then hopefully being a contender in the B1G perennially. The Hawks need to win out and dominate in a major bowl (I don't think Wisconsin is going to lose again) to put the stamp on a great year and keep the ball rolling.

What we can't do is let punts hit us in the leg that we shouldn't be anywhere near, fumble kicks that shouldn't be returned in the first place, or throw passes to wide open CBs that should have been thrown into the stands. Clean up that ridiculousness and we are a perennial top 20 team. Keep doing it, and we're back on the hamster wheel thinking about what could've been like Uncle Rico.

 

[Fryowa]

Most of his mistakes are on over throws, that's fixable. In the NFL he will struggle to over throw legitimate wide receivers.

You're right that Stanley would look like Brady with McNutt or DJK, but you're wrong about overthrowing being his problem.

His misses have mostly either been throws behind receivers or throwing short in the turf.

 

[deanvogs]

I like Stanley and I'm not a hater. But it's not debatable that he's all or nothing when it comes to performance. When he's on, you're right...he's the best we've had since Chuck Long.

But when he's off he looks like Mullen or Vandenberg...that's not meant to be an insult; it's an honest take on the way he plays during those times. He makes mind-numbingly bad decisions with the ball. A lot of what's saved him this year has been playing shitty defenses. If you go back and rewatch the last three games, count how many passes hit opposing CBs for what should have been easy INTs but got dropped. We lose those games against better opponents. We can't do that sort of thing against teams like Penn State, and if this team want's to make something special out of this yea, the "Chuck Long" Stanley has to show up.

I know everyone thinks I hate the Hawks but I don't. I really think this season has the potential to be something great for this program.

--The offense has finally gotten away from 1930-style play.

--The defense is the best we've had since the early 2000s.

--2015 is recent enough that media and recruits still remember it.

--Several Hawks are killing it in the NFL

--Kittle, Fant, and Hockenson are making huge waves and getting the U some national attention.

All of these things are a perfect storm for Iowa to start working itself into the recruiting elite, which is obviously the first and most important step to replacing Wisconsin and then hopefully being a contender in the B1G perennially. The Hawks need to win out and dominate in a major bowl (I don't think Wisconsin is going to lose again) to put the stamp on a great year and keep the ball rolling.

What we can't do is let punts hit us in the leg that we shouldn't be anywhere near, fumble kicks that shouldn't be returned in the first place, or throw passes to wide open CBs that should have been thrown into the stands. Clean up that ridiculousness and we are a perennial top 20 team. Keep doing it, and we're back on the hamster wheel thinking about what could've been like Uncle Rico.

I appreciate the positive take on the current team and state of the program. I do think that sometimes as fans we focus on the bad plays. The simple fact of it is there will be more bad plays/mistakes. There will be bad calls by the coaches and misplays by the players. So far this year there has been a ton more good than bad. Progress is occurring that can be easily seen from both the players and the coaches.

Overall I am super excited at where the program is at. I was not this optimistic of the program in 2015, because GD and his crew still were in Iowa City. I said after the 2015 season it was the perfect time to get rid of Davis and move onto Brian. He was the future of the program (good or bad), so just take that step and make that change sooner rather than later.

 

[InGoodCo]

The offense has made a gigantic leap since BF took over, it's time for Iowa fans to recognize that and get passed his last name. BF could go get a P5 HC job after this season but he won't, and that's a good thing for Iowa moving forward. Let's see how far they can take this.

 

[InGoodCo]

I like Stanley and I'm not a hater. But it's not debatable that he's all or nothing when it comes to performance. When he's on, you're right...he's the best we've had since Chuck Long.

But when he's off he looks like Mullen or Vandenberg...that's not meant to be an insult; it's an honest take on the way he plays during those times. He makes mind-numbingly bad decisions with the ball. A lot of what's saved him this year has been playing shitty defenses. If you go back and rewatch the last three games, count how many passes hit opposing CBs for what should have been easy INTs but got dropped. The reason his INT numbers are low is because guys are dropping them. Iowa loses those games against better opponents. We can't do that sort of thing against teams like Penn State, and if this team want's to make something special out of this year, the "Chuck Long" Stanley has to show up.

I know everyone thinks I hate the Hawks but I don't. I really think this season has the potential to be something great for this program.

--The offense has finally gotten away from 1930-style play.

--The defense is the best we've had since the early 2000s.

--2015 is recent enough that media and recruits still remember it.

--Several Hawks are killing it in the NFL

--Kittle, Fant, and Hockenson are making huge waves and getting the U some national attention.

All of these things are a perfect storm for Iowa to start working itself into the recruiting elite, which is obviously the first and most important step to replacing Wisconsin and then hopefully being a contender in the B1G perennially. The Hawks need to win out and dominate in a major bowl (I don't think Wisconsin is going to lose again) to put the stamp on a great year and keep the ball rolling.

What we can't do is let punts hit us in the leg that we shouldn't be anywhere near, fumble kicks that shouldn't be returned in the first place, or throw passes to wide open CBs that should have been thrown into the stands. Clean up that ridiculousness and we are a perennial top 20 team. Keep doing it, and we're back on the hamster wheel thinking about what could've been like Uncle Rico.

Iowa has not played bad defenses, but they made em look bad for sure. I get that you're not a hater, or you're trying to be positive, but you still lack any real objective look at things. You picked them to win 6 games this season right? I know you are a Hawk fan, but being right to you is more important and I know that due to our fun debates in the past. MD had one of the top defenses in the B1G heading into Saturday. They beat #7 TX. Iowa has played the 28th ranked schedule so far per Sagarin, I know you don't believe that and you think that they played 2 FCS teams, but you don't really get to decide that stat. There's paid professionals who do. Stanley has a 16-6 TD/INT ratio, you'll take that every day of the week, so I am not sure where your mind goes numb with all his decisions...but again, his stats don't reflect your narrative at all. Stanley has been very good all season and has made some clutch plays...hopefully he can keep it up.

 

[JoeyLabasForPresident]

Yeah NE throws it a ton to their RBs. It's a huge part of what they do. I don't think our O lineman are all that great at releasing and blocking down field like that. Our Rbs can all do that so it'd be a nice wrinkle to do more of it that's for sure.

I was hoping that was something they were saving for the Wisconsin game. I was disappointed.

 

[ssckelley]

You're right that Stanley would look like Brady with McNutt or DJK, but you're wrong about overthrowing being his problem.

His misses have mostly either been throws behind receivers or throwing short in the turf.

Is there data that show that I am wrong? Because it seems like when Stanley is missing it is over the receivers head. On Saturday he was even over throwing receivers on short throws, I'm sure the wind had something to do with it. But it's what my eyes are seeing, I've not seen any data that supports it or tell me I'm wrong.

He's got an NFL arm, I think we can both agree it his accuracy that needs work.

 

[Fryowa]

Is there data that show that I am wrong? Because it seems like when Stanley is missing it is over the receivers head. On Saturday he was even over throwing receivers on short throws, I'm sure the wind had something to do with it. But it's what my eyes are seeing, I've not seen any data that supports it or tell me I'm wrong.

He's got an NFL arm, I think we can both agree it his accuracy that needs work.

Is there data to show that you're not?

I'm way too lazy to go edit a bunch of video to prove my point, so I guess you win.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

I was hoping that was something they were saving for the Wisconsin game. I was disappointed.

We haven't ran many screens to WRs either come to mention it.. BF seems to like that quick throw to the TEs with Fant now and then but those 'tunnel screens' are fewer and far between it seems like

 

[ssckelley]

Is there data to show that you're not?

I'm way too lazy to go edit a bunch of video to prove my point, so I guess you win.

Nobody is winning here, it's one perception versus another. I honestly didn't know if they kept statistics on this kind of stuff yet.

 

[Fryowa]

Nobody is winning here, it's one perception versus another. I honestly didn't know if they kept statistics on this kind of stuff yet.

KOK definitely has a grad assistant keeping stats on that, but Barta denied my open records request.

 

[Robowe]

Is there data that show that I am wrong? Because it seems like when Stanley is missing it is over the receivers head. On Saturday he was even over throwing receivers on short throws, I'm sure the wind had something to do with it. But it's what my eyes are seeing, I've not seen any data that supports it or tell me I'm wrong.

He's got an NFL arm, I think we can both agree it his accuracy that needs work.

See Trubisky, Mitch.

 

[InGoodCo]

FWIW and I don't know where to find the stats, but Jon and Deace were throwing out the #'s - Stanley is one of the most efficient QB's in the country on 3rd down. He also leads the country in pass plays of 25 more yards maybe? I dunno - they didn't say where that stat came from, but the notion that Stanley is anything other than a BAMF, let alone by his own "fans" is funny to me. He's having a great season. Excited to see him take down Penn State this weekend.

 

[Adam]

Stanley is not perfect. He still can't seem to take anything off of the short throws and moreover the main issue is he let's a errant throw get in his head and he starts aiming the ball.

Those faults aside. Stanley is a gamer and a Helluva Hawk. I am proud to watch him lead the swarm and I am ready to go to battle with my couch cushions every week with Stanley leading the charge. Stanley is probably not the best QB in college ball, but he is our QB and might be one of the very best game managers in KF history. Just go let it rip kid. Hawk nation has your back win or lose.

 

[SteveGarvey1]

Stanley is not perfect. He still can't seem to take anything off of the short throws and moreover the main issue is he let's a errant throw get in his head and he starts aiming the ball.

Those faults aside. Stanley is a gamer and a Helluva Hawk. I am proud to watch him lead the swarm and I am ready to go to battle with my couch cushions every week with Stanley leading the charge. Stanley is probably not the best QB in college ball, but he is our QB and might be one of the very best game managers in KF history. Just go let it rip kid. Hawk nation has your back win or lose.

Nice praise overall but do you think he's just a game manager? I mean Jake Rudock was a game manager but I would hope Stanley is more than that.

 

[Adam]

Nice praise overall but do you think he's just a game manager? I mean Jake Rudock was a game manager but I would hope Stanley is more than that.

Not sure if he is more than a game manager. He has had flashes of more, but does not display that special side consistantly.

That said a game manager is what Iowa needs. That is the base that we build winning teams around. Remember a game manager is not a bad thing. Many championship teams through the years with a game manager QB. Game managers can even tear it up now and again I.E. Dilfer, Fitzpatrick, Alex Smith all come to mind immediately.

 

[ssckelley]

See Trubisky, Mitch.

OMG, it's the exact same thing with Trubisky!!! He's got an incredible arm but his accuracy sucks.

 

[InGoodCo]

Only our own fans would call a QB that's thrown 42 TD's in his first 20 games as a starter a "game manager" ...

 

[Adam]

Only our own fans would call a QB that's thrown 42 TD's in his first 20 games as a starter a "game manager" ...

You're speaking as if a "game manager" is a negative designation. It truly is not. Some QB's are just undeniable. Brees & Rodgers. Those guys don't focus on limiting turnovers and managing the chains. They just go gun and sling it. Everyone else is honestly a game manager. Eagles won a Superbowl last year with a back up game manager to their starting game manager. Even Brady is more of a game manager than a gun slinger.

 

[InGoodCo]

You're speaking as if a "game manager" is a negative designation. It truly is not. Some QB's are just undeniable. Brees & Rodgers. Those guys don't focus on limiting turnovers and managing the chains. They just go gun and sling it. Everyone else is honestly a game manager. Eagles won a Superbowl last year with a back up game manager to their starting game manager. Even Brady is more of a game manager than a gun slinger.

When most people describe a “game manager” they are describing a QB that isn’t going to light you up or make your defense pay. They are good enough to handle the offense and can pull off what the staff needs them to do, but ultimately are not a weapon. Stanley’s about as far removed from a game manager as you can get.... though he is able to pull back and play within the confines of the game plan and throw high percentage passes when called upon.