Iowa winning 09 Big Ten Title

Saginawbay

Saginawbay

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Will Iowa add it into our program or just kind of leave it in the back ground when we are awarded the 09 title?

Also when that comes will give Iowa a 12 win season will be interesting to see how Iowa athletic department handles it.

I would say do not promote leave it in the background we did not win it on the field what does everyone else think?
 
If I had to guess, yes there would be a vacant title if anything. Similar to USC being stripped of the BCS title, and it being vacant. I wouldn't want the Big Ten title that way
 
I would take it. 3 Big Ten titles in a decade look better than 2.... I know it isn't the way we would want it, but they cheated.
 
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I cannot imagine the B10 will have a vacant champion for 2009 in the books. OSU is going to have all its wins vacated, that is for certain. One would think Iowa would be retroactively recognized as the champ. Pretty dirty and I don't think rings will be made or anything, but if the conference wants to put Iowa in the books, I am not going to argue with it.

I think the BCS champs are bit different animal since that is an organization in and of itself. It is more of a business than an athletic institution such as a conference. Although most would say conferences are businesses of the first order.
 
MultipleDundieAwardWinner said:
Has anyone even accused, none the less proved, that OSU cheated in 2009? I figured all the kerfuffle comes from their actions last year.
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Don't know if it's been proven or not, but there was a story on ESPN.com that said Pryor's dealings went as far back as 2008.

I don't care though. I wouldn't want the title like this.
 
A similiar situation happened with the BB team when Minnesota's 1996-97 team had to vacate their B10 title.

Iowa finished second but was not awarded the title. I wouldn't expect this to be any different.
 
Don't forget that if OSU vacates the title, it would become a shared championship between Iowa and Penn State, both of whom finished 6-2 with losses to Ohio State. It would be similar to '04 when Iowa lost to Michigan and still shared the title with them.

Regardless, I think if OSU vacated the title, it would be officially recognized as being vacant.
 
Xerxes said:
A similiar situation happened with the BB team when Minnesota's 1996-97 team had to vacate their B10 title.

Iowa finished second but was not awarded the title. I wouldn't expect this to be any different.
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What did the league do when scUM had to vacate its BB titles from the fab-5?
 
Really NeilDiamond?

You can't imagine a vacant title? What do you think happened to the Big Ten title Minnesota won in basketball in the 90s and Iowa came in second?

We're still waiting for that title, aren't we. There will be no title awarded top the school that had been second. Precedent has been set and the same conference leadership is still in place.
 
tm3308 said:
Don't know if it's been proven or not, but there was a story on ESPN.com that said Pryor's dealings went as far back as 2008.

I don't care though. I wouldn't want the title like this.
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I would usually agree with not wanting to win a title like this, but we went toe to toe with them in the Horseshoe with a FR QB with the Big Ten title on the line and lost in OT. I don't think that OSU would win if the players in question were held out of competition...either of the last 2 years actually.
 
LGEND24 said:
I would usually agree with not wanting to win a title like this, but we went toe to toe with them in the Horseshoe with a FR QB with the Big Ten title on the line and lost in OT. I don't think that OSU would win if the players in question were held out of competition...either of the last 2 years actually.
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This is the truth...people say "we lost on the field so we don't deserve the trophy they were the better team" they were barely better...and we were the best LEGAL team in the conference.
 
I don't think Iowa is getting a conference championship, but it really is different than a BCS or basketball tournament championship.

The Big Ten football championship is based on head to head wins. It would be simple to move all the wins to forfeitures for OSU and wins for the other team. It wouldn't require speculation like the BCS championship or a basketball tourney.

I also actually think it is the better PR move. Because if you just vacate the title, it leaves a permanent mark when no one would remember it over time if you just swapped the champions and really no one could complain.
 
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