WindsorHawk
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USA Today has us as 1st one out and CBS has us on the bubble. I think 3 more wins gives us a reason to watch on Selection Sunday...will feel a lot better with 4. And I will have zero nerves with 5!
Iowa Still Has A Shot at At Large Bid
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BigD
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If I were to be honest I thought the same thing
thedukeofearl
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Somehow I knew the three was going in.....
Almost never before have I felt that way.....
The immediate manner Jordan released the ball with supreme confidence was the tell.....
thedukeofearl
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DDThompson
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Whichever tourney Iowa ends up in, the opponent isn't going to be able to grab and maul Jok and the other guards like Big10 teams have been doing the second half of the season -- Jok all season.
docholihawk
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If we weren't screwed in the Minny game I think we'd in the last 4 in category right now.
ssckelley
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Yep, we would be looking at a 19-12 record with a 3 or 4 seed in the BTT with an RPI around 62. The only problem with that is our first opponent without an upset in the BTT would probably be either MSU or Wisconsin (there are also scenarios where it could be Maryland or Minnesota as well). A loss to a team like MSU would push the RPI clear back up to 70.
So the bottom line is either way Iowa would probably have to reach the semi finals of the BTT to have a real shot at getting into the Big Dance. But, granted, beating Minnesota would have made it easier because then they wouldn't have to play until the 3rd day of the tournament.
hawkeyebob62
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This may SEEM like a stupid question, but since everyone continues to obsess about the Omaha loss, here goes:
What would a win in that game have done for our RPI?
What would a win in that game have done for our RPI?
ssckelley
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When I was running the RPI Wizard it put our RPI at 63 with a win over Penn State. The RPI drops to 59 with a win over Ohio State and a loss to Wisconsin or Minnesota in the BTT.
hawkeyebob62
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That's WITH a win over Omaha?
I guess my questions is, why would winning that game jump the RPI so much? I get the 20+-position improvement with successive wins over Indiana, Maryland and Wisconsin. I just have a hard time believing RPI can be so relevant about a game from last December...
It's not so much that winning it helps so much. It's more than not losing it doesn't kill it so much.
Last year against Temple. Before that Uthoff hit one against Minnesota. Before that you would have to goo to Marble's sophomore year where he hit two. One against Wisconsin and another against Minnesota.
ssckelley
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Because losing at home really hurts our RPI winning percentage, which is 25% of the RPI score. Remember losses at home count as 1.4, so that's a pretty big shift.
Edit - you could flip any home loss and have the same affect. The opponent doesn't matter for the RPI score, but the Omaha game is considered to be our worse loss in the eyes of the committee.
hawkeyebob62
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But that loss happened in December. It's almost like Lou Holtz in week 8 back in 2009 grousing about having to block 2 FGs back in week 1. I get that last 10 isn't be-all, end-all, but December games are a real stretch.
All that said, Illinois getting hot is probably hurting us more than any other single element right now in terms of "B1G logjam" potential.
ssckelley
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It's still considered our worst loss. You asked why I used the Omaha game so I gave you a reason. Is the committee looking at that loss? I have no idea, I would hope they consider we were without Tyler Cook for that game if they are. I do agree they probably put more weight on the last 10.
Recker BTT couple times over
Cmon Rutgers
