Iowa State has been decimated

[hawkdrummer1]

I'm fully excepting the demise of ISU as my Christmas present. I'm willing to share it with all of Hawkeye Nation. You're welcome

I wouldn't except it, I'd embrace it.

 

[BryceC]

I think Campbell felt boxed in by Pollard's conservatism on a number of issues. Pollard hasn't exactly updated his methods with the times. When the Penn State job opened up Campell saw the resources and opportunity and jumped ship.

Iowa State had a lot of good years with Campell. Now is the hangover after the party.

Undoubtedly that was part of it, but the stuff earlier in this thread was just blatantly untrue.

His budget at PSU is more than 2x that of Iowa State. Iowa State will be 14 million, PSU has guaranteed him 30+ million.

These type of jobs don’t open often and it’s probably the only one he would get. I don’t think there is more to it than that.

 

[AreWeThereYet]

Undoubtedly that was part of it, but the stuff earlier in this thread was just blatantly untrue.

His budget at PSU is more than 2x that of Iowa State. Iowa State will be 14 million, PSU has guaranteed him 30+ million.

These type of jobs don’t open often and it’s probably the only one he would get. I don’t think there is more to it than that.

I think Campbell liked the stability at Iowa State. Iowa State could also win in the current Big 12.

9-3 is probably the basement at Penn State. Any lower than that and the grumbling will begin in earnest. There will be a lot of pressure to make the CFP at least twice in the next four years. That will be a tall order.

 

[Hawkboys]

I think Campbell liked the stability at Iowa State. Iowa State could also win in the current Big 12.

9-3 is probably the basement at Penn State. Any lower than that and the grumbling will begin in earnest. There will be a lot of pressure to make the CFP at least twice in the next four years. That will be a tall order.

He ain't winning 9 next year if his roster is full ISU port-holes

 

[AreWeThereYet]

He ain't winning 9 next year if his roster is full ISU port-holes

Depends on how many PSU players actually jump ship. I'll bet they are already busy trying to claw back outbound transfers.

 

[BryceC]

He ain't winning 9 next year if his roster is full ISU port-holes

Look at their schedule. If Iowa State had that schedule with the team they would have had under Campbell I would absolutely expect 9 wins.

 

[BryceC]

Just for those keeping track at home, Iowa State, counting the graduating seniors is down 57 players.

 

[trj]

Just for those keeping track at home, Iowa State, counting the graduating seniors is down 57 players.

Well, your man, Jimmy Rogers…at least has experience in dealing with the mass exodus of players.

 

[dagdaj]

I think Campbell liked the stability at Iowa State. Iowa State could also win in the current Big 12.

9-3 is probably the basement at Penn State. Any lower than that and the grumbling will begin in earnest. There will be a lot of pressure to make the CFP at least twice in the next four years. That will be a tall order.

I think he'll do as good, or better than any recent PSU coach. I think he'll never match the highs of any previous long lasting PSU coach, but he will equal the later years of the coach who shall not be named.

That being said, ISU fans have to admit the decimation this is causing.
Will/would Iowa be decimated under a similar situation?
No. They would not. Would they be reeling? Of course. But would they have the same fight and challenges on their hand as ISU? Similar. But nothing remotely to the scale ISU is experiencing.

Which just shows that ISU was NEVER close to being the "dominant" program in the state.
Iowa is still national and consistent "top 25" program.

That all being said, this is why I hope that Kirk swallows whatever pride he needs to, if necessary, and understands that when he goes (by his choice of timing, or that his choice of timing might get forced upon him) that he agrees to go without a bad word and in seeming lockstep with Goetz. And they do both do it on an actual timeline due to an existing plan.

 

[kicker22]

I think he'll do as good, or better than any recent PSU coach. I think he'll never match the highs of any previous long lasting PSU coach, but he will equal the later years of the coach who shall not be named.

That being said, ISU fans have to admit the decimation this is causing.
Will/would Iowa be decimated under a similar situation?
No. They would not. Would they be reeling? Of course. But would they have the same fight and challenges on their hand as ISU? Similar. But nothing remotely to the scale ISU is experiencing.

Which just shows that ISU was NEVER close to being the "dominant" program in the state.
Iowa is still national and consistent "top 25" program.

That all being said, this is why I hope that Kirk swallows whatever pride he needs to, if necessary, and understands that when he goes (by his choice of timing, or that his choice of timing might get forced upon him) that he agrees to go without a bad word and in seeming lockstep with Goetz. And they do both do it on an actual timeline due to an existing plan.

I don't think it's so much Campbell leaving that decimated ISU, but rather how it went down. I don't see that happening in Iowa City. Sure there will be some fall out, but not nearly that of epic proportions like were seeing in Ames.