Iowa High School Football

99topdawg said:
I even go as far as adding Des Moines into the parochial school advantage. They have so many resources (leagues, facilities, etc.) plus the suburbians have the resources (money) to give their kids the advantages, and these schools have an abundance of these kids that fit this category. My brother and 2 very close friends coach at a suburb, one being a head coach, and they all say the same things. When I compare what I have at my school to theirs, they even agree that it is not fair and that there should be some sort of competitive advantage for the different schools. For example, they get HUGE team discounts for leagues, who make their money off of out of town teams, and discounts for hitting/pitching facilities, which make their money off of lessons. They even kept their facilities open (secretly of course) through the entire "closure" for the kids to use. Notice that the finals had 7 parochial/DSM schools. The 8th was Gilbert which really fits the DSM category, just happens to be Ames.

Not to be a prick, but because of my hatred for what the parochial schools have done to HS sports, I want to point out to everyone that my former school, Martensdale-St. Mary's, is not parochial. Just happens to be a town named St. Mary's. They are "Des Moines", so really the same thing in my eyes. Always bothered me when people threw us into the scum pool that are Catholic schools.
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I 100% believe they should have different conferences, that's not just me being facetious.

Until they have to play by the same rules, they have a ridiculous advantage.

Those high schools can recruit, offer money and perks, and they don't have to follow any districting rules. And they do all of that stuff with abandon. The kid I mentioned in my earlier post from the Hartley area had a car given to his parents for him to use that school year since it was such a far drive and he had a gas account set up at the local co-op so he didn't have to pay it. He bragged about it.

And you know what? That was all 100% legal.
 
kicker22 said:
Any ideas how it would work out if he tried to transfer to another state in the event Iowa High Schools shut down fall sports?
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I did some more digging out of curiosity. Below is what Iowa says; it looks like (in IA at least) he'd be ineligible for 90 days. In any case, the Executive Board can grant exemptions for situations not covered in the list.

This is from the IAHSAA rules and policies manual...

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RobHowe said:
I'm not aware of fall sports being canceled or moved in Iowa City. I know the Des Moines schools say they're going on-line to start. Have they said anything about fall sports?

I don't see how you can have high school sports without it being safe to be in school, but they did it with baseball and softball, so they might try. Good luck with cross country.
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DSM area is full steam ahead on sports even if they are going 50% time or all online.
 
I get people being annoyed by Dowling down here, but if it weren't Dowling it'd be Valley just cleaning up in the playoffs. The Des Moines city schools have just no shot. That's a much bigger gap than Dowling versus the burbs.
 
BryceC said:
I get people being annoyed by Dowling down here, but if it weren't Dowling it'd be Valley just cleaning up in the playoffs. The Des Moines city schools have just no shot. That's a much bigger gap than Dowling versus the burbs.
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It’s not Dowling, it’s the idea that private schools have monumental advantages that are out of reach of most public schools, and also illegal for public schools.
 
Fryowa said:
I 100% believe they should have different conferences, that's not just me being facetious.

Until they have to play by the same rules, they have a ridiculous advantage.

Those high schools can recruit, offer money and perks, and they don't have to follow any districting rules. And they do all of that stuff with abandon. The kid I mentioned in my earlier post from the Hartley area had a car given to his parents for him to use that school year since it was such a far drive and he had a gas account set up at the local co-op so he didn't have to pay it. He bragged about it.

And you know what? That was all 100% legal.
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I remember reading about a stud baseball player that was so dedicated to MC Newman that he chose to drive 30 miles every day to go there. I'm sure it was for a fine Catholic education.
 
Fryowa said:
I did some more digging out of curiosity. Below is what Iowa says; it looks like (in IA at least) he'd be ineligible for 90 days. In any case, the Executive Board can grant exemptions for situations not covered in the list.

This is from the IAHSAA rules and policies manual...

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There was just a lawsuit down here about this very issue. The public school losers, like you, were bitching because the private schools were taking all the star players from the public schools. So the public schools outvoted the private schools through the athletic association and passed some rule that kids would be ineligible for a year. Got their asses handed to them in court. The thing that really pissed everyone off was that some dudes started a knockoff of IMG that recruits like hell and looks like it is going to destroy everyone in football once it gets a critical mass of dudes in a few years.
 
99topdawg said:
I remember reading about a stud baseball player that was so dedicated to MC Newman that he chose to drive 30 miles every day to go there. I'm sure it was for a fine Catholic education.
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Look, I don't know the tenets of Catholicism, but my old man had this documentary movie on VHS about a Catholic reform school, so I know a little bit about what goes on at those Catholic reform schools. It was in a box under his bed with a lot of documentaries. Those girls did some pretty wild things. Maybe he saw the same documentary and that is why he chose to attend.
 
okeefe4prez said:
There was just a lawsuit down here about this very issue. The public school losers, like you, were bitching because the private schools were taking all the star players from the public schools. So the public schools outvoted the private schools through the athletic association and passed some rule that kids would be ineligible for a year. Got their asses handed to them in court. The thing that really pissed everyone off was that some dudes started a knockoff of IMG that recruits like hell and looks like it is going to destroy everyone in football once it gets a critical mass of dudes in a few years.
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Sorry, you can send your kid to all the Japanese immersion schools on the planet but you're still from Fort Dodge. That shit don't wash off no matter how much you try to culture yourself.

10/10 you'd still test piss dirty for gypsum dust and crack pipe residue after all these years. I will say that Dodge does have a certain distinction in that it actually gets real deal crack straight from Chicago rather than messin with that cheap ass meth the rest of Iowa gets. Go big or go home, I guess.

White trash is permanent, homie. I bet parking your Skylark on concrete for the first time was a kickass experience once you finally did it, though.
 
Fryowa said:
Sorry, you can send your kid to all the Japanese immersion schools on the planet but you're still from Fort Dodge. That shit don't wash off no matter how much you try to culture yourself.

10/10 you'd still test piss dirty for gypsum dust and crack pipe residue after all these years. I will say that Dodge does have a certain distinction in that it actually gets real deal crack straight from Chicago rather than messin with that cheap ass meth the rest of Iowa gets. Go big or go home, I guess.

White trash is permanent, homie. I bet parking your Skylark on concrete for the first time was a kickass experience once you finally did it, though.
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I'm from Coalville, not Fort Dodge, breh. But irregardless, your post does nothing to address the substance of my post. The public schools just gotta get better and stop being whiny little bitches about losing.
 
okeefe4prez said:
I'm from Coalville, not Fort Dodge, breh. But irregardless, your post does nothing to address the substance of my post. The public schools just gotta get better and stop being whiny little bitches about losing.
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1) Irregardless? Come on. Even a Dodger wouldn’t try and bait me with that linguistic accident.

2) Coalville = Fort Dodge’s runny-nosed little sister. It’s the same town, man. A 9mm round is still supersonic in the distance from Coaltown to 15th St. There’s a reason you guys slept in bathtubs at night.

3) Let public schools recruit outside their districts and pay kids an amount equal to the average private school tuition and private school sports won’t exist.
 
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This private school advantage in high school reminds me of a tv show following a Baptist high school in Arkansas. It made schools like Dowling pale in comparison with all the private $$$ poured into the program, even having games @ Jerry's World. Their website just for the team was better than many colleges.

But if schools like Dowling, Heelan, Wahlert, MC Newman and the like belong to the state athletic association the rules need to be the same for everyone.
 
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