MelroseHawkins
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Half the athletes in the SEC wouldn't even be academically eligible to be on a BIG team. The SEC finds a way to get any athlete on the team. It's a rogue league & is everything wrong with college athletics.
Iowa football is an elite money-maker
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Half the athletes in the SEC wouldn't even be academically eligible to be on a BIG team. The SEC finds a way to get any athlete on the team. It's a rogue league & is everything wrong with college athletics.
Herkeynerd
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The closest you can get to buying a college football franchise.
One of my wife's cousins is a trainer for the football program and according to him the pile of money that comes their way is staggering. He says it gives them the best of the best in equipment and facilities. He underestimates Iowa though. Right before Iowa lost to Northwestern in 09, Iowa was #1 in the computers in the BCS. He said, "They don't play like a #1 team." True they lost to Northwestern the day after he said that, but the Hawks also went to and won a BCS bowl that same year. His Cowboys faltered down the stretch and we stole that BCS game from them.
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hawkdrummer1
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Unless you're using the money to buy players (see Auburn, Oregon, etc) it doesn't work that way in college sports. Even in the pros where you can buy players, it's not a simple more money=Championship equation. (the Yankees should win nearly every year under that assumption)
We do get good results. By all accounts IOWA shouldn't be an elite program. One only need follow many of the pundits out there to know that. For a small state and the smallest public institution in the Big Ten we've been to and won more than our share of Bowl games. That's WHY we're making money.
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MultipleDundieAwardWinner
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That's some fine lack of self-awareness Lou. You know the only way the Big 10 was able to beat the SEC in the BCS was to roll out a half dozen ineligible players right? This is the kettle calling the pot a black chunk of cookwear. And Michigan sure was running a clean program right? No smoke there. And speaking of smoke, how many players got kicked off the Hawkeyes for indulging a bit too much?
Careful where you're casting those stones hombre.
Oh, and I am sure all of the guys playing in the Big 10 are Rhodes Scholars. Any excuses you can come up with to deflect the attention off that lack of crystal footballs.
Doing drugs and selling stuff for money is not what he was talking about. He said academically eligible.
okeefe4prez
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No other program has gone 0-3 in any 3 year stretch against Northwestern and still managed to be in the top 15 in wins nationally. That is a special accomplishment and should be a banner we hang outside Kinnick.
NewMexHawk
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"Here in SEC country, it is a running joke that the Big 10 brags about their paychecks because they don't have championships to talk about."
Wonder what the Big 10 would be like if they used the "same" rules that the SEC does--huge oversigning of kids and if they don't work out, kick them off the team; and lowering of entrance requirementsd.
Oh, and I forgot one of the most important...cheating by most of the schools in the SEC.
Yes osu was caught cheating...and they would make a GREAT Sec team wouldn't they.
Wonder what the Big 10 would be like if they used the "same" rules that the SEC does--huge oversigning of kids and if they don't work out, kick them off the team; and lowering of entrance requirementsd.
Oh, and I forgot one of the most important...cheating by most of the schools in the SEC.
Yes osu was caught cheating...and they would make a GREAT Sec team wouldn't they.
hawkdrummer1
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There are two types of people in competitive athletics.
1. Those that want to win and will cheat to do it. They like that others see them as the winner and want that attention, or validation...so cheating doesn't bother them. It gets them what they want...their "image" as a Champion.
2. Those that want to win and take satisfaction from knowing how they got there, understanding that the journey is as important as the accomplishement. They take great personal satisfaction in reaching their goal. And they realize that if they had to cheat to get there....in reality,they fell short.
We can discuss all day who is who in the above. But I think the culture of your state or school and the personality of your coach goes a long way toward which way your program tends to lean.
Lombardi's famous "Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing" may be the most misinterpeted quote of all time in sports. Read about him and you'll realize that's not at all what he was saying...or what he was about.
As a famous sportswriter once said "Sports doesn't build character...it reveals it".
1. Those that want to win and will cheat to do it. They like that others see them as the winner and want that attention, or validation...so cheating doesn't bother them. It gets them what they want...their "image" as a Champion.
2. Those that want to win and take satisfaction from knowing how they got there, understanding that the journey is as important as the accomplishement. They take great personal satisfaction in reaching their goal. And they realize that if they had to cheat to get there....in reality,they fell short.
We can discuss all day who is who in the above. But I think the culture of your state or school and the personality of your coach goes a long way toward which way your program tends to lean.
Lombardi's famous "Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing" may be the most misinterpeted quote of all time in sports. Read about him and you'll realize that's not at all what he was saying...or what he was about.
As a famous sportswriter once said "Sports doesn't build character...it reveals it".
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MultipleDundieAwardWinner
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And yet you guys sit around here bragging about how rich and powerful the Big 10 is, and you think everything is run squeaky clean? OSU is just an outlier? Now who's fooling themselves?
hawkdrummer1
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You may want to review the story at OSU. It's a far reach from the academic "leniency" and Buddy-Booster$ that are common in the SEC.
Tressel got caught telling lies, but what went down in Columbus was trivial compared to the systematic cheating at many schools.
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SpecialKHawk
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The SEC -> they don't call it the South Eastern Cheaters for nothing
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