Iowa Could Dominate

Fryowa said:
That may be, but myy schtick is more accurate. Ferentz averages between 6 and 7 wins depending on whether you include OOC games or just conference games. You want me to pick 10 wins every year like a bunch of the rubes around here do?

Your guys' schtick, as positive and "ra ra ra, yay team!" as it is, a pie in the sky guess. Mine is too, but it's based on what they historically do.
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And also, I am not "ra ra ra, ya team" or predicting Iowa to win 10 games this year. But I know what they don't do, and that's only win 6 or 7 games every year. It's a ridiculous notion that you can google search fairly easily.
 
I'm honestly curious on this, and not trying to be an a$$, but what do all of you think will turn the results of the Iowa/Wisconsin game around? It's at Kinnick, but Wisconsin's had recent success there. From my perspective, it is hard to say your O will be better and I'm not sure your D will be much better.

Wisconsin MAY have issues in the D line and at DB but we've recruited well in both those areas and have some players with experience waiting in the wings for their shot. Offensively, I can't remember a year where we've been this stacked with this much talent AND experience. About the only spot that I can think of where we MIGHT take a step back is at HB/TE and quite honestly I'm not sure we don't have guys who will EVENTUALLY be better there.

It's likely that it will be a good game, most Iowa/Wisconsin games are, but I just don't see us losing this one. Hell, we turned the ball over 4 times last year, 14 points for you, and still beat you by 20. Really , not trolling here, just would like to know your assessments of how the Iowa team of 2018 will be an improvement over the Iowa team of 2017.

My honest assessment of Wisconsin in 2018 from 2017.
QB better all around with another year under Chryst's wing.
OL better than the very good line of 2017
TE(inline) will be at least as good
HB/TE maybe a little poorer but with the chance to be more explosive.
RB Better (hard to say that with a 2000 yard RB returning)
WR For once, we've got numerous playmakers out the kazoo.

Defensively
DL a little worse maybe a lot worse (depends on injuries)
LB as solid as always and will compensate for any weakness in the DL
CB potential but probably a little worse
S as good.
 
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Unknownbadger said:
I'm honestly curious on this, and not trying to be an a$$, but what do all of you think will turn the results of the Iowa/Wisconsin game around? It's at Kinnick, but Wisconsin's had recent success there. From my perspective, it is hard to say your O will be better and I'm not sure your D will be much better.

Wisconsin MAY have issues in the D line and at DB but we've recruited well in both those areas and have some players with experience waiting in the wings for their shot. Offensively, I can't remember a year where we've been this stacked with this much talent AND experience. About the only spot that I can think of where we MIGHT take a step back is at HB/TE and quite honestly I'm not sure we don't have guys who will EVENTUALLY be better there.

It's likely that it will be a good game, most Iowa/Wisconsin games are, but I just don't see us losing this one. Hell, we turned the ball over 4 times last year, 14 points for you, and still beat you by 20. really , not trolling here, just would like to know your assessments of how the Iowa team of 2018 will be an improvement over the Iowa team of 2017.

My honest assessment of Wisconsin in 2018 from 2017.
QB better all around with another year under Chryst's wing.
OL better than the very good line of 2017
TE(inline) will be at least as good
HB/TE maybe a little poorer but with the chance to be more explosive.
RB Better (hard to say that with a 2000 yard RB returning)

Defensively
DL a little worse maybe a lot worse (depends on injuries)
LB as solid as always and will compensate for any weakness in the DL
CB potential but probably a little worse
S as good.
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It's not a troll to think Wisconsin will win at Kinnick. They likely will be favored (not by many) which is rare for many teams coming into IC, but they have a lot coming back. I think that Iowa can get em, they typically can get up for a big dog, but I wouldn't bet on it. Iowa has to prove they can do it first and they just haven't been in Wisci's class for a while.
 
InGoodCo said:
LOL - they've won 7 or more games in 9 of the last 10 years. You have a real issue with reality.
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Cherry pick to suit your point much? Ferentz has averaged between 6 and 7 wins for his career at Iowa and I know you know how to do the math. Overall is 7 games; conference is a little over 6. Conference records are more important than including OOC cupcakes but that debate is tired and I'll let you rant on that if you want. And don't accuse me of overloading the beginning of his career because his best 3 year run BY FAR started in his 3rd year coaching here.

Tell me how my math is a "real issue with reality." Seriously. If I fucked up the calculator tell me so.
 
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Cherry picking would be me saying - well they won double digits in 02,03,04,09 & 15 so that means they will win double digits this season. You guys think I'm a homer, I think your idiots cause you can't see what's in front of ya
 
InGoodCo said:
Cherry picking would be me saying - well they won double digits in 02,03,04,09 & 15 so that means they will win double digits this season. You guys think I'm a homer, I think your idiots cause you can't see what's in front of ya
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it's "you're."

Sorry, but you've done it to me before.
 
Fryowa said:
Cherry pick to suit your point much? Ferentz has averaged between 6 and 7 wins for his career at Iowa and I know you know how to do the math. Overall is 7 games; conference is a little over 6. Conference records are more important than including OOC cupcakes but that debate is tired and I'll let you rant on that if you want. And don't accuse me of overloading the beginning of his career because his best 3 year run BY FAR started in his 3rd year coaching here.

Tell me how my math is a "real issue with reality." Seriously. If I fucked up the calculator tell me so.
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I just told you they've won over 7 in 9 of the last 10 years so how does that compute to a 7 win average? You are bad at math if that's what you think. Who cares about the OOC - everyone plays cupcakes and everyone gets fat on bad teams. Also, who cares about 20 years ago. Let's look at recent. Your only wins 6 or 7 games a year doesn't apply to the LAST DECADE. You can't not get that right?
 
Fryowa said:
it's "you're."

Sorry, but you've done it to me before.
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I HAVE NEVER! I am not a grammar police. I suck at writing and stuff. But that's ok - it typically happens when the other party doesn't really have much of an argument.
 
also @Fryowa, I hope you know that I heart you and you're helping me waste away my Friday afternoon with a convo we've been having for 3+ years all while Ferentz has won 8 or more games. It's silly when you look at it.
 
Given that Iowa has only truly dominated one year under Ferentz 2002, I would have to say no. Iowa beat up on a few lesser teams (plus Ohio State) last season. Hayden Fry rarely had dominant team either, 1985 being the most dominant, 86 and 90 to a lesser degree. Fry used to beat up on the puppies pretty often. Ferentz has had a tendency to play opponents close, good or bad.

Iowa's average at being average is rather remarkable in itself.

Truly bad years are rare. Only coaching transition years of 1999 & 2000, and new offensive coordinator for 2012 being below 6 wins. Even the two six win seasons in 2006 and 2007 had clearly identifiable issues. Quarterback Drew Tate was injured going into 2006. Iowa was every bit as thin at receiver as ten years later in 2016. The defensive secondary was in shreds the last half dozen games. So much so they considered pressing Shonn Greene into duty as a defensive back. 2007 had a decent defense but the offense was awful. It had arguably the worst offensive line since 1999 (including last year) and Jake Christiansen really didn't cut it at quarterback.

Unfortunately, truly good years have also become something of a rarity. Only one year since the big coaching transition after 2011, were there more than 8 wins.
 
InGoodCo said:
Cherry picking would be me saying - well they won double digits in 02,03,04,09 & 15 so that means they will win double digits this season. You guys think I'm a homer, I think your idiots cause you can't see what's in front of ya
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I see! Iowa's schedule is extremely favorable. One of my biggest complaints of the B1G schedulers. Not holding that against Iowa, Wisconsin has had those schedules too. It just hurts the western teams in multiple ways. 1) Easy schedule against the East means a better chance to win the West and unfair to others in the West with sometimes hellacious conference schedules. 2) Easy Western schedule means you better win the CCG or there's no chance at the Championship series and then it's questionable. 3) Tougher schedules might mean a lesser team could be possibly playing in the CCG. 4) Good games against good opponents fill stadiums and get national attention..

Yearly there are generally 4 good to very good teams in the East (UM, MSU, PSU, Tosu). All with large stadiums. IMO, each good team in the west should have the same opportunity to play at least 2 of them.
 
InGoodCo said:
I HAVE NEVER! I am not a grammar police. I suck at writing and stuff. But that's ok - it typically happens when the other party doesn't really have much of an argument.
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And you did do it once when you were fired up about something. But I'm not looking through over 4,000 posts.
 
Fryowa said:
And you did do it once when you were fired up about something. But I'm not looking through over 4,000 posts.
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I actually recall that now, it was because some dip s did it to me earlier in the post, so I just ran around correcting everybody one day like the ahole I am.
 
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