hawkeyebob62
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This is an outrage. The Director's Cup is key to successful recruiting. Everyone knows THAT.
Iowa 11th in BIG conference Director's Cup - winter sports
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Ticket sales in Football and Basketball (and to a much smaller extent wrestling) drive revenues.
Also REVENUES in Football and Basketball are needed to pay for the ENTIRE REST OF THE athletic department expenses.
Would it be nice if Iowa was better at Softball, Volleyball, men's gymnastics or any other NON REVENUE sport? Sure but those that honestly think that matters at all is mistaken. AD's get hired and fired for the success of two sports Football and Men's basketball and football and Men's basketball only.
If you disagree find me an AD that was fired because a schools water polo team didn't meet preseason expectations.
Schools are required to field a certain number of programs to be able to remain in a conference and they must be paid for. So you might as well try to succeed and be successful at them, if not at a national level at least within your conference.
Finish last is pretty pathetic, given that all Big 10 schools are given an equal share of TV revenues. If your an AD in the big 10 it is actually pretty hard to F/up revenue growth, you have what like 13 other schools working on your behalf to help pull in $$.
Its a joke that Iowa athletics is one of the worst in the conference.
Finish last is pretty pathetic, given that all Big 10 schools are given an equal share of TV revenues. If your an AD in the big 10 it is actually pretty hard to F/up revenue growth, you have what like 13 other schools working on your behalf to help pull in $$.
Its a joke that Iowa athletics is one of the worst in the conference.
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Not sure why ISU fans just can't grasp the fact that Iowa fans just don't care about this. I'm ok with Iowa pouring all of their available revenue into the programs that fans actually care about
Exactly. Barta could hire a college kid as a swimming coach who knows nothing about swimming, and nobody would care. But if you hired a football coach who went 7-6, 6-7, 6-7, 3-9 in his first 4 years, the fan base would be up in arms and demand change. I mean that's a win percentage of .419. Pretty pathetic stuff. Even Iowa State has a win % of .456 in hit's sad "history".
WegsBabyUnk
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The answer is that Iowa doesn't have skiing, fencing, rifle (wtf?), men's ice hockey, women's ice hockey, or women's bowling (wtf again?). That's 6 of the 15 sports that make up the standings. We gain points over most schools on wrestling, but lose a bunch in other places we have no control over.
I've always thought the Director's Cup is a joke. The top 20 or so are always (A) universities with massive enrollment (and thus larger AD budgets) and often statewide monopolies or, (B) a more average school that happened to have a very good year in select nonrevenue sports (ISU is in the same boat as us, but finished 25 spots higher because they had some success in women's gymnastics and women's track and field---that is the entire difference, for the most part, between the 25 spots). Many schools are automatically shut out of some points every year because they don't have one or more of the sports included in the formula (so the really large athletic departments gain points, even if their team in that sport is barely good enough to finish in the top half in a sport with very few teams).
I would love to brag about the Big Ten having 5 of the top 10, but look at who they are: OSU (no other BCS programs in a large population state), Wisconsin (no other BCS programs in a decent-sized state), Minnesota (see Wisconsin), and PSU (they've just got Pitt in a very large state). Two of those three benefit greatly from pretty much automatic points in women's and men's ice hockey.
I've always thought the Director's Cup is a joke. The top 20 or so are always (A) universities with massive enrollment (and thus larger AD budgets) and often statewide monopolies or, (B) a more average school that happened to have a very good year in select nonrevenue sports (ISU is in the same boat as us, but finished 25 spots higher because they had some success in women's gymnastics and women's track and field---that is the entire difference, for the most part, between the 25 spots). Many schools are automatically shut out of some points every year because they don't have one or more of the sports included in the formula (so the really large athletic departments gain points, even if their team in that sport is barely good enough to finish in the top half in a sport with very few teams).
I would love to brag about the Big Ten having 5 of the top 10, but look at who they are: OSU (no other BCS programs in a large population state), Wisconsin (no other BCS programs in a decent-sized state), Minnesota (see Wisconsin), and PSU (they've just got Pitt in a very large state). Two of those three benefit greatly from pretty much automatic points in women's and men's ice hockey.
lightning1
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I'm not interested in national standings. That's why I narrowed it to BIG standings only.
lightning1
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That's on par with the #1 smug fatboy.
theboat
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You sound upset. Look guy. I know you are trolling hard and stupid, but some people like to play along because it is the offseason.
And FTR, I ain't worried about our summer dictator cups ranking because we brought in a top five bocce ball recruiting class. I bet you, as a tavern directors cup fan, didn't know that.
tm3308
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Sports Iowa is/has been pretty good to elite in:
Football
Men's basketball
Women's basketball
Wrestling
Field hockey
Men's track
Men's swimming
Men's golf
Men's gymnastics
They've got the major sports covered, plus a few of the non-revenue sports, too. Baseball has been bad, but Heller definitely seems to have the program moving quickly in the right direction. Most of the other programs are just plain bad, but nobody pays any attention to those sports, even when they're good. Hell, the crowds at field hockey, gymnastics, golf and swimming are very small, unless it's a big event like the B1G championships. So why, exactly, should the university care if the programs are good?
gohawkz
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You put too much thought into this post. The people ******** about Iowa not being good at field hockey are too stupid to understand most of your words.
I thought I'd seen every sort of crazy on the boards, but people ******** about losing a director's cup? lol I hope they are Iowa State trolls cause it makes me a little sad if Iowa fans are that stupid.
