Instant Reaction Podcast

[SpecialKHawk]

"the calvary is not coming, we have to play the guys we have." that's a kirk-ism for, "oh shit, we suck." that's what he said in '12.

That's also code for I am going to keep playing guys that are playing now that have no business playing at this level; Bower, Snyder, etc.

We burned the red shirt on how many freshman to play a handful of snaps and a few special teams plays? Unreal!

 

[rschneider]

First time I've turned a game off with 8:00 left to go in years. I don't even think I did it for the Rose Bowl. Ferentz teams never used to lose like this.

 

[ArvadaHawk]

That's also code for I am going to keep playing guys that are playing now that have no business playing at this level; Bower, Snyder, etc.

We burned the red shirt on how many freshman to play a handful of snaps and a few special teams plays? Unreal!

Yeah, burning red shirts. Look, this style of football worked 18 years ago because it allowed lesser talented teams to slow down the game. But the speed and size of players have both increased over that time and now, in 2016, the way for lesser talented teams to compete is by getting their "speed" guys in space, i.e read option, jet-sweep, spread things out.

I hope folks don't start going back to 12-0, 12-2. That was a great and wonderful season. But football programs don't live in a vacuum. Last season we faced 3 teams with new coaching staffs (Pit, WUs, kNU), a jNW team that was in transition and starting a FR qb, PU is horrible, ISU was horrible, Illanoy had an interim coach, MD was bad and fired their coach after the season, and we were fortunate to beat MN at home at night.

 

[HawkPrdatr40]

First time I've turned a game off with 8:00 left to go in years. I don't even think I did it for the Rose Bowl. Ferentz teams never used to lose like this.

How could anyone last that long. I turned it off with 8 minutes to go in the 2nd quarter down 21-0. The Iowa Hawkeyes are a complete Joke and it's downright embarrassing. Honestly I can't even comprehend that Iowa is 5-4 though 9 games. Looking at those Offensive stats this morning, WTF is THAT!?!??

As for the instant podcast agree with others on the constant reminder of I will not go down the Burn it Down path. Fact is that Iowa has some really Big Issues inside that program. IMO just no other way to look at it. Lastly Davis must retire and or be Fired there is no other way around it..

12th Ranked Total Offense in Big Ten
12th Ranked Rushing Offense in Big Ten
11th Ranked Pass Offense in Big Ten

As for KF he heard the fans prior to last season as they got really vocal. He cherished every single moment last season when he was able to Mock the fans with his New Kirk comments and others comments etc.. reality is It won't take long for those same fans to get loud again and this time it's going to get really loud..

Sadly I get to sit through this shit show on Saturday Night.

 

[SheagleHawk]

That's the thing. We were 12-2 last year. It was a historic season.

No doubt it's been a very disappointing year. But I don't believe it calls for a firing of KF, not that it's possible with the contract extension.

I have said, and I'll maintain, that be buyout in the extension was an epic fail by Barta.

Better lob some more softballs for Kirky then. What a joke. What does it take for you to believe KF deserves to be canned?!? Already a joke on the national level. Coaches being called out weekly for complete bonehead decisions a 10yr old wouldn't even make. Losing to FCS schools at home. 5-7 with an easy schedule. 0-4 at home. Losing top recruits every year. Attendance is going to take a massive hit next year. Seriously, what does it take for you to call for Kirk's head?

 

[RobHowe]

I get that. Kirk not coaching at Iowa next season is up to him. The ride is over. Is he in it for the contract or does he really care about Iowa football. His vision doesn't work anymore. Does he know it? If he does, then he changes.

I think he cares about Iowa football. He cares about how he's viewed and his legacy. He's going to stick what he believes in. We have an 18-year sample size as evidence of that.

I honestly don't blame KF for any extension or buyout he's been given through the years. If I had a boss who agreed to give me those deals, I'd surely take them. I think most of us would.

 

[RobHowe]

Better lob some more softballs for Kirky then. What a joke. What does it take for you to believe KF deserves to be canned?!? Already a joke on the national level. Coaches being called out weekly for complete bonehead decisions a 10yr old wouldn't even make. Losing to FCS schools at home. 5-7 with an easy schedule. 0-4 at home. Losing top recruits every year. Attendance is going to take a massive hit next year. Seriously, what does it take for you to call for Kirk's head?

Seriously, you expect me to take the time to answer you when you come at me this way? I get the frustration. We're all frustrated. Let's keep it civil and respectful. It's not that hard.

 

[OkstHawk]

I think he cares about Iowa football. He cares about how he's viewed and his legacy. He's going to stick what he believes in. We have an 18-year sample size as evidence of that.

I honestly don't blame KF for any extension or buyout he's been given through the years. If I had a boss who agreed to give me those deals, I'd surely take them. I think most of us would.

You honestly think he cares about his legacy at this point? The way he coaches, the only thing he cares about is doing just enough to get paid and to stick around long enough to see his underperforming son get a shot. Look at this team and their demeanor. They are aloof because their coach is. His legacy will always be Old Kirk and a distant second to HF.

 

[RobHowe]

I do think he cares. I think he works his ass off in an attempt to be successful. He hates losing. As I wrote, he's going to stick with what he believes in to make that happen.

 

[OkstHawk]

I do think he cares. I think he works his ass off in an attempt to be successful. He hates losing. As I wrote, he's going to stick with what he believes in to make that happen.

I guess we will agree to disagree because if I hate losing I'm going to have my team prepared every single week -- and I'm going to match their strengths to my opponents weaknesses to give me the best chance to win. He clearly hasn't done that on multiple occasions this year. Just because someone hates to lose doesn't mean they are out there actively doing what's necessary to win.

The problem with KF is, like you said, he's going to do the same old tired crap each week until it clicks. Well, it ain't clicking and why he can't (but everybody else can) see it is the whole problem.

I would almost guarantee that you could put 10 guys from this message board plus Hawkeye game film on the sideline and pay them 300k each and we wouldn't see this level of incompetence and uninspired football. Getting 5 wins out of this schedule is a joke.

 

[SheagleHawk]

I do think he cares. I think he works his ass off in an attempt to be successful. He hates losing. As I wrote, he's going to stick with what he believes in to make that happen.

How is failing to adapt to modern college football working his ass off? Most would concede that as a lazy attempt at earning the gazillion of dollars you are already overpaid. Sorry, Ferentz does not give off the vibe of a hungry, hard worker exhausting himself and all resources(there are a ton of them) for the betterment of the UofI. Hell he even said as much 2 seasons ago when we had yet another dumpster fire of a year.

 

[RobHowe]

There's really no way to prove one way or the other how much he cares, as you wrote. That's just my take observing through the years.

As for 10 guys from this board and HGF performing better than the current staff, I respectfully disagree with that assertion.

 

[tksirius]

I think he cares about Iowa football. He cares about how he's viewed and his legacy. He's going to stick what he believes in. We have an 18-year sample size as evidence of that.

I honestly don't blame KF for any extension or buyout he's been given through the years. If I had a boss who agreed to give me those deals, I'd surely take them. I think most of us would.

He's averaged 7 wins a year in an era that plays 12 and/or 13 games a year. Not exactly that wonderful, IMO

 

[HawkGold]

I do think he cares. I think he works his ass off in an attempt to be successful. He hates losing. As I wrote, he's going to stick with what he believes in to make that happen.

Rob, how can you say that. Reporting is not about feelings. I guess you are a blogger which is different. Part of the problem is that the media is afraid to report. I applaud that you at least brought up that PSU had a weak defense previously, but looking at their accomplishment, the only thing they've really done is beat OSU (OK big), but even that one was handed to them and IU almost did the same thing.

Part of the problem is the media. The contract deal smells and is anyone really investigating and asking questions? This team is so bad in so many ways. You broke down very little. You did an OK job at looking at next year, but only looking at returning player. The key is not how they finish up. It is how corrections are addressed and accomplished. 2014 finished with 4 losses in 5 games and 3 in a row.

"Don't be so predictable is the best you can do? How about proper fundamentals on tackling? Angles on Defense. Getting guys like Stanley some experience?

 

[ArvadaHawk]

I think he cares about Iowa football. He cares about how he's viewed and his legacy. He's going to stick what he believes in. We have an 18-year sample size as evidence of that.

I honestly don't blame KF for any extension or buyout he's been given through the years. If I had a boss who agreed to give me those deals, I'd surely take them. I think most of us would.

Rob, I don't disagree. But my point is that the ride is over. It is. Does ferentz understand that? If he does not change, then it shows he doesn't. If he does change, then he understands he is doing what needs to be done and he can build on his legacy.

 

[OkstHawk]

There's really no way to prove one way or the other how much he cares, as you wrote. That's just my take observing through the years.

As for 10 guys from this board and HGF performing better than the current staff, I respectfully disagree with that assertion.

Again, we will agree to disagree because my 9 year olds flag football coach has a higher football IQ than what I've seen at Kinnick this season.

 

[RobHowe]

He's averaged 7 wins a year in an era that plays 12 and/or 13 games a year. Not exactly that wonderful, IMO

Big fan of the movie. Laughed at the photo. If that's your edit, well done.

 

[RobHowe]

OK. I understand the frustration. I'm fine with you guys being upset with me (I'll let Jon speak for himself). I'm speaking and writing what I feel and see. And, believe me, no matter what I or anybody else in the media says or writes will not affect what's being done within the football program. What matters is money. If tickets continue to sell, all will be forgiven. Heck, we just announced a major stadium renovation.

 

[PCHawk]

Rob, I don't disagree. But my point is that the ride is over. It is. Does ferentz understand that? If he does not change, then it shows he doesn't. If he does change, then he understands he is doing what needs to be done and he can build on his legacy.

He did change...last year. Then he changed back this year. New Kirk (there was a New Kirk the first half of last year) would not have lost to NDSU and Northwestern. The season doesn't spiral out of control with those two losses. We would probably be playing Nebraska with a chance to go 10-2 or 9-3 if Kirk from the first half of last year was coaching.

 

[herkytime]

With the typical JM disclaimer of "I'm not doing what I did after the 2014 season". Yes Jon, we know you are embarrassed by that and aren't going there again. No reason to keep bringing it up after every Iowa loss...