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Yes. The amount of bowl games has spun out of control and many lesser known ones are sparsely atteneded and being played by mediocre teams.

Time to allocate that money elsewhere. They can work games around final exams. For student athletes who actually take them.

The 1976 Iowa State team under Earle Bruce would have been a dangerous out in a sixteen team postseason format. Instead, they didn't even get a bowl bid.
 
Northside Hawk said:
Yes. The amount of bowl games has spun out of control and many lesser known ones are sparsely atteneded and being played by mediocre teams.

Time to allocate that money elsewhere. They can work games around final exams. For student athletes who actually take them.

The 1976 Iowa State team under Earle Bruce would have been a dangerous out in a sixteen team postseason format. Instead, they didn't even get a bowl bid.
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Wow, you really went back in history for that one.

You mean the 1976 ISU squad that was not even the AP top 20 in the final regular season poll on Nov 30 and then snuck in at #19 in the final poll in Jan poll? The ISU squad that was ranked behind Ok, Neb, Col and OkSt in the Big 8 conference? Even with 16 teams, I could not see ISU sneaking in.
 
I thikn the contract goes through the mid 20s. We have a while to wait.

I imagine we have a big expansion period around that time as well.
 
guffus said:
Wow, you really went back in history for that one.

You mean the 1976 ISU squad that was not even the AP top 20 in the final regular season poll on Nov 30 and then snuck in at #19 in the final poll in Jan poll? The ISU squad that was ranked behind Ok, Neb, Col and OkSt in the Big 8 conference? Even with 16 teams, I could not see ISU sneaking in.
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That's my whole point. The Big 8 was the best conference in the country that year and Iowa State finished 8-3 playing in that conference. They were second in the nation in total offense and up there in forced turnovers as well.

They had wins over #7 Missouri and #9 Nebraska. They were definitely one the top 15 teams in the nation.

Noticed I said "they" not "we". If I have to point out after over 2,000 posts where my alleigencies lie then I'm the dumbest poster on this board. I was just trying to give credit to a team that deserved more.
 
guffus said:
Wow, you really went back in history for that one.

You mean the 1976 ISU squad that was not even the AP top 20 in the final regular season poll on Nov 30 and then snuck in at #19 in the final poll in Jan poll? The ISU squad that was ranked behind Ok, Neb, Col and OkSt in the Big 8 conference? Even with 16 teams, I could not see ISU sneaking in.
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I don't feel like googling right now. What was their record that year?

Never mind. Saw the record two posts above.
 
Northside Hawk said:
That's my whole point. The Big 8 was the best conference in the country that year and Iowa State finished 8-3 playing in that conference. They were second in the nation in total offense and up there in forced turnovers as well.

They had wins over #7 Missouri and #9 Nebraska. They were definitely one the top 15 teams in the nation.

Noticed I said "they" not "we". If I have to point out after over 2,000 posts where my alleigencies lie then I'm the dumbest poster on this board. I was just trying to give credit to a team that deserved more.
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Disagree. Last game of the year, ISU lost 42-21 at #16 Oklahoma State. If they win that game, they may have been deserving of a bowl game (OSU got the Tangerine Bowl vs BYU).
 
Robowe said:
Disagree. Last game of the year, ISU lost 42-21 at #16 Oklahoma State. If they win that game, they may have been deserving of a bowl game (OSU got the Tangerine Bowl vs BYU).
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Iowa State was mathematically alive for an Orange Bowl bid after beating Nebraska. The Bluebonnet Bowl (at the Astrodome and now defunct) was set to pick ISU as well.

The OSU loss that you mentioned crushed them. And Nebraska ended up getting ISU's Bluebonnet bid as well. They key to all this is that only about twelve bowl games existed back then. That's what really screwed ISU.

I'm off this soapbox, gang. Lots of good opinions. I'll leave it up to Cyclone Nation to pick it up from here if they choose to do so. But I'll leave you with this. Remember the 1978 season? Nebraska beat Oklahoma for traditional Orange Bowl bid, despite the fact that Oklahoma was better and better that day. Eight lost fumbles on a cold windy Lincoln day doomed the Sooners. But guess what? The Orange Bowl set up a rematch, and Oklahoma won. You want to get an old time Nebraska fan going, bring up 1978.
 
MelroseHawkins said:
8 is absolutely perfect. 16 starts to water down the conference season a bit. At the current time, every single weeks game has importance. I don't want to lose that in college football.
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Yep, 8 is enough. No need to be like the NFL where some real crap teams can get in.
 
Northside Hawk said:
Yes. The amount of bowl games has spun out of control and many lesser known ones are sparsely atteneded and being played by mediocre teams.

Time to allocate that money elsewhere. They can work games around final exams. For student athletes who actually take them.

The 1976 Iowa State team under Earle Bruce would have been a dangerous out in a sixteen team postseason format. Instead, they didn't even get a bowl bid.
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Wait, why are you bringing up the Clowns?
 
MoseSchrute said:
Yep, 8 is enough. No need to be like the NFL where some real crap teams can get in.
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Well, it's 5 P5 conference championship teams with 3 at large invites to those teams like Boise St, etc., or a great P5 team with a solid RPI or Saggarin's ranking, however they measure it.
 
Northside Hawk said:
Iowa State was mathematically alive for an Orange Bowl bid after beating Nebraska. The Bluebonnet Bowl (at the Astrodome and now defunct) was set to pick ISU as well.

The OSU loss that you mentioned crushed them. And Nebraska ended up getting ISU's Bluebonnet bid as well. They key to all this is that only about twelve bowl games existed back then. That's what really screwed ISU.

I'm off this soapbox, gang. Lots of good opinions. I'll leave it up to Cyclone Nation to pick it up from here if they choose to do so. But I'll leave you with this. Remember the 1978 season? Nebraska beat Oklahoma for traditional Orange Bowl bid, despite the fact that Oklahoma was better and better that day. Eight lost fumbles on a cold windy Lincoln day doomed the Sooners. But guess what? The Orange Bowl set up a rematch, and Oklahoma won. You want to get an old time Nebraska fan going, bring up 1978.
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You went to far Northside Hawk! It's cryfan! :mad: Hehehhe
 
Northside Hawk said:
Iowa State was mathematically alive for an Orange Bowl bid after beating Nebraska. The Bluebonnet Bowl (at the Astrodome and now defunct) was set to pick ISU as well.

The OSU loss that you mentioned crushed them. And Nebraska ended up getting ISU's Bluebonnet bid as well. They key to all this is that only about twelve bowl games existed back then. That's what really screwed ISU.

I'm off this soapbox, gang. Lots of good opinions. I'll leave it up to Cyclone Nation to pick it up from here if they choose to do so. But I'll leave you with this. Remember the 1978 season? Nebraska beat Oklahoma for traditional Orange Bowl bid, despite the fact that Oklahoma was better and better that day. Eight lost fumbles on a cold windy Lincoln day doomed the Sooners. But guess what? The Orange Bowl set up a rematch, and Oklahoma won. You want to get an old time Nebraska fan going, bring up 1978.
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One of only 2 times the Clowns have ever finished the season ranked. That 76 team was one of their best ever, may have been thee best. Earle Bruce could have been what Hayden Fry was to Iowa at Iowa State, good thing he moved on.
 
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