I just don't get it
- Thread starter dobhawk43
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Well I'm sure he's glad you're here to defend him.
I agree with you that Iowa has lost a ton, but the frustrating part is the competition has also been down. Iowa had games won, just like last Saturday, but found ways to lose them even when it seems impossible. And let's face it, there were a couple of games that Iowa was very very lucky to win (i.e. Indiana dropped pass in the endzone.)
Maybe I should except the fact that under KF, most of Iowa's games are going to be close. The good years we win most of them and get anywhere from 8-10 wins, the bad years, 6 or 7 (or less this year.) My problem is, if we are going to play close games, we can't have coaching mistakes cost us games, and if you don't think coaching mistakes have cost us games, then you're not paying attention.
papathawki
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I'd assume if you could care less about what others think, then you have immediately withdrawn from HN & anything to do with it. I'm wondering then, why so many of HN fans, would bother to comment on you post. Ah,I know why: You do care! Are you just a phoney poster, probably a cyclone, rabble rouser. Prove me wrong!
OUTofTOWNHAWK
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Hows he supposed to prove you wrong? Youre not a thinker are you?
1977Hawkeye
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Um, no it isn't. People just want better success on the field. Simple as that. There's nothing personal about it.
ICHawk24
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Then his salary isn't relevant.
kicker22
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Just my opinion, but I enjoyed having him during the great years and I'm not going to throw him under the bus during the bad ones. I get that many feel we've become mediocre, and that he makes the same stupid mistakes game in and game out. I truly understand that line of thinking, however I've said it before and I'll say it again, his philosophy has remained consistent and very little has changed about him. Unfortunately our style of play keeps us in games and the main difference is the bad years we don't execute and nothing seems to go our way and the good years everything seems to go our way and we do execute well enough to get the wins.
Unfortunately, I don't think Iowa is, will ever be, or ever was a team that is head and shoulders above the competition. I think it's as simply as catching a break here and there or making or not making one or two plays a game that ultimately have given us the great seasons and the one's people look back on and point fingers. We play a simple style of football that may be predictable, but keeps every game competitive. We've won games we shouldn't have and we've lost games we shouldn't have. Call me stupid, but he's obviously done something to raise the bar as what we as fans consider successful, and I think this program's more than capable of getting back to that point.
Unfortunately, I don't think Iowa is, will ever be, or ever was a team that is head and shoulders above the competition. I think it's as simply as catching a break here and there or making or not making one or two plays a game that ultimately have given us the great seasons and the one's people look back on and point fingers. We play a simple style of football that may be predictable, but keeps every game competitive. We've won games we shouldn't have and we've lost games we shouldn't have. Call me stupid, but he's obviously done something to raise the bar as what we as fans consider successful, and I think this program's more than capable of getting back to that point.
Lazy? Should we give up season tickets? Stop watching the games on TV? Stop buying Hawk merchandise? Call our Congressman? If you choose not to support your program, then don't. Go cheer for the Huskers then. People like to bring up back to back losses to Minnesota and ISU and the recent loss to CMU as evidence of something. Have you also forgotten all the wins against Penn State and Michigan? The bowl wins over SEC teams that were supposed to be so much better than we were? You see Kirk was the coach of all those games too.
AdamHawk
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How do we get to 8-10+ win seasons each and every year? My guess would be to start with recruiting. Where are all the blue-chippers? Not in Iowa, that's for sure. They are mainly in the South (Florida, Texas, Cali, etc). Why on earth would a kid from those locations ever want to come to Iowa, or any Midwestern school for that matter? I know this is hard to believe for a lot of you but Iowa is boring. Iowa City is one of (if not the) smallest cities in the B10, it's in the middle of nowhere and it's COLD. KF and staff face an uphill battle to bring top athletes this way. That's why we have to make due with mostly unheralded athletes, with a few blue chippers sprinkled in. Unfortunately that means the occasional rebuilding/mediocre season. It sucks but we are in the middle of one right now. The good news is we have some good looking underclassmen in the wings and I'm confident KF and staff will get it turned around as he's done multiple times.
papathawki
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aaaaaaaa+1
My point exactly. All the "Fire KF" now people just look at the losses that they say Iowa shouldn't have lost. But why not look at the wins that Iowa shouldn't have won then, too. For about every "bad" loss there's a "good win". Yes, I wish Iowa would be more consistent and not loss those games, but what if they didn't win those games that they weren't supposed to. We'd be in the same vote. Would you accept a season that way? Everyone is looking at the negative, but you have to take the positive into account as well.
OUTofTOWNHAWK
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Why does he have to keep turning the program around?
His talent levels are fine. Its his ineffective game plan and being an awful game day coach.
OUTofTOWNHAWK
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There is no excuse to lose to horrible teams every years. None.
So none of it is on the players for lack of execution? Or is that because they weren't prepared enough by the coaches?
So it only happens at Iowa?
OUTofTOWNHAWK
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There has been a lot of different players over the years. One coach.
OUTofTOWNHAWK
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This often? Yes. With this much NFL talent? Yes.
So a player misses a field goal, no problem coach didn't let him practice enough.
So a player misses a tackle, no problem coach didn't let him practice enough or teach proper technique.
So QB over/underthrows receiver, no problem, OC called the wrong play at the time.
So WR gets hit in the hands, but drops the ball, no problem coach didn't show them how to catch properly.
So a player fumbles, no problem coach didn't make him carry a football around campus.
Should I go on??
I understand there's been poor decisions, but the players are are just as much to fault as the coaches. Anyways I don't see you out there doing it. Maybe call Kirk up and provide some suggestions since you know what the problem is and he doesn't.
RocknRollface
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Well schools do put up with it but for not nearly as much money.
Iowa has to pay the most money per win of any school.
