I don't understand Fran

What do you get out of fifth place finish in a conference. What pleasure do you get out of mediocrity. Do you think people like Dan Gamble would stand for that when he was the coach here. It's lame because all you're doing is excusing it away and
 


BigD said:
What do you get out of fifth place finish in a conference. What pleasure do you get out of mediocrity. Do you think people like Dan Gamble would stand for that when he was the coach here. It's lame because all you're doing is excusing it away and
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When you're picked 9th or worse and you finish 5th - I'd say that's decent. I want them to be better too - but they've been pretty good and look to be primed for a better run then they just went on. That's how building a program works.
 




SteveGarvey1 said:
Unless Fran forgot to have the players practice free throws the past week, the loss isn't on him.
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Funny how people focus on one or two plays, but forget about the missed free throws and stupid multiple TO's (12 in the 1st half alone) that really lost the game. 1 more free throw and the game doesn't even go to OT.
 




8-19 from the line, 25 pts off turnovers - the "Fran's coaching strategy", "Iowa fans settle for mediocre" and "BTT failures" crowd must be appeased.
 


HuckFinn said:
Thank goodness! We lose a game and all of the geniuses come out of the woodwork to blast Fran. Glad to see you guys back! I thought maybe you died in a car accident while Iowa was playing outstanding basketball at the end of the regular season.
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LoL! Epic Post
 








I am hopeful for the next two to three years like everyone else but I don't want to see the basketball program fall into the same trap as the football program and the apathy around it. Things can't be too great as Several posters have stated the only half the seats are occupied during the regular season basketball games. When Lute was here you couldn't get tickets to the game as they were always some out unless we were playing someone we knew we would kill by forty points.

So apparently there is some apathy that has set in. Sure he is doing better that Steve or Lick has done but a time period is approaching where it will be apparent one way or the other what direction this program is going.

It appears that our recruiting has ticked up and that is why I have said I can see waiting a couple more years to see what Fran can do with what appears to be upgrades in recruiting. One poster was already arguing one day that even if we don't improve in the next couple of years who is to say it won't happen a few years after that. People get themselves in a trap. Most people don't like change because worse things could happen so just stand put and accept mediocrity and hope once in a while the conference is down combined with slightly better recruits and we win the conference. Lame as hell.

I know that many on here have been saying the same thing as I have been. We will give Fran a pass this year because his freshmen player well but are very young. I totally agree and have openly said so. Many have also agreed with me that the time of excuses has got to come to an end within three years. I totally agree.

My gripe is with the dumb masses out here who will be making excuses IF Fran doesn't pull it together in the next three years. They are out here and they will support him if that happens and will be talking trash about how great the next recruiting class will be. These types of fans kill me. It's this mindset that destroys sports programs because. It's what Hayden Fry identified as his top priority to change when he first got here............ and they are back in spades.

I ask all of you that are on the same bus as I am not to listen or be influenced by these types of people. If it don't work out ( and I hope it does as I have been supporting Fran all along) then it's time to vocal. My biggest gripe isn't so much with Fran as it is with these fans out here that Hayden Fry was talking about. Accept mediocrity and make up excuses of why it's ok.
 




BigD said:
I am hopeful for the next two to three years like everyone else but I don't want to see the basketball program fall into the same trap as the football program and the apathy around it. Things can't be too great as Several posters have stated the only half the seats are occupied during the regular season basketball games. When Lute was here you couldn't get tickets to the game as they were always some out unless we were playing someone we knew we would kill by forty points.

So apparently there is some apathy that has set in. Sure he is doing better that Steve or Lick has done but a time period is approaching where it will be apparent one way or the other what direction this program is going.

It appears that our recruiting has ticked up and that is why I have said I can see waiting a couple more years to see what Fran can do with what appears to be upgrades in recruiting. One poster was already arguing one day that even if we don't improve in the next couple of years who is to say it won't happen a few years after that. People get themselves in a trap. Most people don't like change because worse things could happen so just stand put and accept mediocrity and hope once in a while the conference is down combined with slightly better recruits and we win the conference. Lame as hell.

I know that many on here have been saying the same thing as I have been. We will give Fran a pass this year because his freshmen player well but are very young. I totally agree and have openly said so. Many have also agreed with me that the time of excuses has got to come to an end within three years. I totally agree.

My gripe is with the dumb masses out here who will be making excuses IF Fran doesn't pull it together in the next three years. They are out here and they will support him if that happens and will be talking trash about how great the next recruiting class will be. These types of fans kill me. It's this mindset that destroys sports programs because. It's what Hayden Fry identified as his top priority to change when he first got here............ and they are back in spades.

I ask all of you that are on the same bus as I am not to listen or be influenced by these types of people. If it don't work out ( and I hope it does as I have been supporting Fran all along) then it's time to vocal. My biggest gripe isn't so much with Fran as it is with these fans out here that Hayden Fry was talking about. Accept mediocrity and make up excuses of why it's ok.
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I am a self described die hard Fran apologist. I think he's great and had done great with what he's had in the time he's been here. I am an optimist when it comes to Iowa sports in general; I don't like that we had a rebuilding year, but for a rebuilding year, it wasn't that bad and I can see clearly the upside with this program. All that said - if we miss the NCAA tournament even once over the next 3 seasons, my criticism will be very vocal for Fran's faults. I honestly don't think I will have to worry about it tho.
 


BigD said:
I am hopeful for the next two to three years like everyone else but I don't want to see the basketball program fall into the same trap as the football program and the apathy around it. Things can't be too great as Several posters have stated the only half the seats are occupied during the regular season basketball games. When Lute was here you couldn't get tickets to the game as they were always some out unless we were playing someone we knew we would kill by forty points.

So apparently there is some apathy that has set in. Sure he is doing better that Steve or Lick has done but a time period is approaching where it will be apparent one way or the other what direction this program is going.

It appears that our recruiting has ticked up and that is why I have said I can see waiting a couple more years to see what Fran can do with what appears to be upgrades in recruiting. One poster was already arguing one day that even if we don't improve in the next couple of years who is to say it won't happen a few years after that. People get themselves in a trap. Most people don't like change because worse things could happen so just stand put and accept mediocrity and hope once in a while the conference is down combined with slightly better recruits and we win the conference. Lame as hell.

I know that many on here have been saying the same thing as I have been. We will give Fran a pass this year because his freshmen player well but are very young. I totally agree and have openly said so. Many have also agreed with me that the time of excuses has got to come to an end within three years. I totally agree.

My gripe is with the dumb masses out here who will be making excuses IF Fran doesn't pull it together in the next three years. They are out here and they will support him if that happens and will be talking trash about how great the next recruiting class will be. These types of fans kill me. It's this mindset that destroys sports programs because. It's what Hayden Fry identified as his top priority to change when he first got here............ and they are back in spades.

I ask all of you that are on the same bus as I am not to listen or be influenced by these types of people. If it don't work out ( and I hope it does as I have been supporting Fran all along) then it's time to vocal. My biggest gripe isn't so much with Fran as it is with these fans out here that Hayden Fry was talking about. Accept mediocrity and make up excuses of why it's ok.
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Isn't Alford's winning % at Iowa still better than McCaffery's?
 


Really pretty simple: Gotta play some D and get some stops, or this program will never be any better than "2nd round blowout loss to a 1 or 2 seed in the dance" territory.

Offense is not the problem. As pointed out in another thread - Iowa was first in the conference in offense.. Last in defense. You can't simply outscore everyone.
 


tksirius said:
Isn't Alford's winning % at Iowa still better than McCaffery's?
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Alford:
Iowa: 152–106 (.589) 61–67 (.477)

Fran:
Iowa: 137–101 (.576) 64–62 (.508)

Fran's a little better in Big 10 games, anyway. I suspect the overall record will improve somewhat. Even just going 20-10 (.667%) will let Fran jump Alford. Fran's overall percentage is still somewhat saddled by that first year, after taking over Lick's mess. But Fran's been .500 or better the past 5 years in conference games.. Something Alford definitely struggled with.
 


tksirius said:
Isn't Alford's winning % at Iowa still better than McCaffery's?
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maybe over all still, but that won't stand much longer, then whatcha got? - Alford took over a program that was a Corvette at worse - Fran took over a program that was a Chevette at best. Their NCAA resume and hit percentage aint even close and their conference win percentage (games that count against better competition) aint close either.
 








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