Huskers Suspend 2 More

hawkeyebob62 said:
Again, what was the specific NCAA violation?
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So are you saying those mandatory reporters that looked the other way shouldn't be punished or simply saying not by the NCAA?

It's a valid argument as we all know what a joke the NCAA is, however they are the governing body in college athletics and last I knew mandatory reporting for those that are "mandatory reporters" isn't something you can legally chose to ignore.
 
I guess if it wasn't a competitive disadvantage for the school, why cover it up at all? Why cover up how long Joe Pa knew? Because they knew the revelation of the scandal at an earlier time would have severely hurt the program, meaning it enjoyed a relative competitive advantage by Sandusky's crimes staying hidden as long as they did. That's my opinion - I am always open for debate, but I haven't heard a good enough one to dispute it. If they thought covering it up was helping them keep the brand rolling, then I feel like they were getting a competitive advantage by not allowing the truth to come out.
 
kicker22 said:
So are you saying those mandatory reporters that looked the other way shouldn't be punished or simply saying not by the NCAA?

It's a valid argument as we all know what a joke the NCAA is, however they are the governing body in college athletics and last I knew mandatory reporting for those that are "mandatory reporters" isn't something you can legally chose to ignore.
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Again, what specific NCAA rule was violated? It was a legal matter, not an NCAA matter.

B1G, on the other hand, has member schools that can determine "worthiness" of membership. In this case, the member institution proved itself unworthy of membership.
 
hawkeyebob62 said:
Again, what specific NCAA rule was violated? It was a legal matter, not an NCAA matter.

B1G, on the other hand, has member schools that can determine "worthiness" of membership. In this case, the member institution proved itself unworthy of membership.
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I'm by no means a legal expert, but I could see it becoming an NCAA issue falling under the Principle of institutional control and responsibilities as higher ups were involved, and/or the Health and Safety principle which references that it is the responsibility of each member institution to protect the health of, and provide a safe environment, for each of its participating student-athletes.

Hard to see to it that student-athletes are in a "safe environment" when your athletic facilities are being used for sex crimes and those responsible for overseeing the safety of those athletes had chose to ignore their duties of reporting it and looked the other way.

No argument that it was a legal matter, but at the same time I think the NCAA had every right to step in.
 
kicker22 said:
I'm by no means a legal expert, but I could see it becoming an NCAA issue falling under the Principle of institutional control and responsibilities as higher ups were involved, and/or the Health and Safety principle which references that it is the responsibility of each member institution to protect the health of, and provide a safe environment, for each of its participating student-athletes.

Hard to see to it that student-athletes are in a "safe environment" when your athletic facilities are being used for sex crimes and those responsible for overseeing the safety of those athletes had chose to ignore their duties of reporting it and looked the other way.

No argument that it was a legal matter, but at the same time I think the NCAA had every right to step in.
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The particular incident triggering the investigation had nothing to do with PSU, and Sandusky wasn't on staff at the time.
 
Fryowa said:
Don't disagree, but if the B1G didn't kick MSU or PSU out, no way in hell is Nebraska going to get the chopping block. I don't think they should get kicked out, I just think Washington should get expelled and Frost should get fired. Can you imagine the dumpster fire that program would be if Frost got canned? It would be 100 times worse than anything during Mike Riley's tenure.
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I think you and I both know there is no way in hell Frost gets fired for anything other than losing football games. If he wins a few games he's probably firing the admin and AD before they fire him LOL.

Actually, if you read the police report for Maurice Washington, charged with a felony in California, the officer called the Lincoln, Nebraska Police Department asking for information and the Athletic Department called him back. Then a lawyer called and said he'd get back with him after he talked to the coaches LOL. It's right in the CA police report.
 
hawkeyebob62 said:
Again, what specific NCAA rule was violated? It was a legal matter, not an NCAA matter.

B1G, on the other hand, has member schools that can determine "worthiness" of membership. In this case, the member institution proved itself unworthy of membership.
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If it's not an NCAA matter and is strictly a legal matter, then based on what you previously posted about "the incident triggering the investigation having nothing to do with PSU and Sandusky not being on staff at that time" bring it to the level where the institution proved itself unworthy in terms of being expelled by the BIG?

If it's strictly a legal matter wouldn't the BIG put itself at risk of being sued if they attempted to expel? Hard to picture a league without MSU or PSU, because I couldn't see one being removed without the other getting the same fate.
 
hwk23 said:
This isn't directed at you necessarily but the Big Ten should kick Nebraska out. They are currently playing a player charged with a felony. That is a fact. It's an embarrassment to the whole conference, to say the least. I'm really surprised the Big Ten doesn't have a policy about not playing players charged with felonies. I'm guessing it's right on the verge of being a Title IX violation (sexual harassment, sexual intimidation, sexual assault etc). AND the victim is a minor.

EDIT: if in fact the Big Ten doesn't have a policy about not playing a student athlete charged with a felony. I guess it's possible they do, idk.
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I'm really surprised such a precedent wasn't established as a result of something MSU had previously done. Mind blowing.
 
kicker22 said:
If it's not an NCAA matter and is strictly a legal matter, then based on what you previously posted about "the incident triggering the investigation having nothing to do with PSU and Sandusky not being on staff at that time" bring it to the level where the institution proved itself unworthy in terms of being expelled by the BIG?

If it's strictly a legal matter wouldn't the BIG put itself at risk of being sued if they attempted to expel? Hard to picture a league without MSU or PSU, because I couldn't see one being removed without the other getting the same fate.
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PSU could always sue if the B1G kicked them out. Good luck with that.

Bottom line, B1G isn't bound by NCAA or legal standards with regard to membership, other than the "usual". For further slants on how courts view it, see, "Big East schools that sued the NCAA, then subsequently joined the ACC themselves"
 
hawkeyebob62 said:
PSU could always sue if the B1G kicked them out. Good luck with that.

Bottom line, B1G isn't bound by NCAA or legal standards with regard to membership, other than the "usual". For further slants on how courts view it, see, "Big East schools that sued the NCAA, then subsequently joined the ACC themselves"
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Got ya. I was just curious as I didn't see the connection. Like I said by no means a legal expert and just trying to get an understanding for where your thought process was coming from.

I'm one of those that likes differing opinions and actually wants to gain perspective from others :)
 
kicker22 said:
Got ya. I was just curious as I didn't see the connection. Like I said by no means a legal expert and just trying to get an understanding for where your thought process was coming from.

I'm one of those that likes differing opinions and actually wants to gain perspective from others :)
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Oh, I totally get why there are multi views on this/these topic/s. In the case of PSU and MSU, they should be out. And I can list, oh, about 50 schools that would jump at the B1G. Pitt, Missouri, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma, Oklahoma, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, off the top of my head, all fit the profile of B1G universities. As a bonus, scUM sure as hell wouldn't mind MSU being booted, I would imagine.

Question becomes, what kind of deals can B1G/BTN/Fox make with the streaming and internet providers. At a certain point, those folks will care about the reputations of the schools in a conference. Amazon, Hulu, Netflix, et. al., may well show tits, full-frontal, etc., on some of their shows/movies, but those virtue-signal folks will sure as hell care if an Iowa appears anti-LGBTQRSTUV, or a Wisconsin has allowed a Christian speaker in their student union., or Illinois has ever advocated the use of pesticides in agriculture. We live, as they say, in interesting times!
 
All this talk about Nebraska ...

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Nebby looking tougher, against a poor Buffs squad. Not impressed.

If Red comes out and crushes em, I will grudgingly reconsider.
 
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