MelroseHawkins
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You know, a blue-blood school that pretty much recruits itself and loads up with 4* & here and there 5* players? Just throwing that out there for discussion. Would he win a NC? I have often wondered.
How Successful Would Ferentz be at a Alabama or Ohio State?
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SteveGarvey1
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Some people would say he'd win multiple championships. Others would say he'd be fired within three years. I'd say it'd be probably somewhere in between.
I'd like to think he'd do well and win some just depends on how long he's there. He's a better coach then Tressel was and he was known for being conservative. Give KF the best Oline talent to start with year in and yr out along with skill guys I'd just have to think he'd accidently have some monster good years
tksirius
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pythagoras
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ChosenChildren
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I think he would have done very well there. He certainly isn't less imaginative than Woody Hayes.
ChosenChildren
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I will say that he is a lot closer to Woody Hayes in philosophy than Urban Meyer. I wish we were a lot more wide open on offense. Our defense is always good, but our offense is just too conservative.
mopkins
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I think ferentz would struggle. Coaches at those top tier schools have to feed and manage lots of egos and go over the top for the best recruits. I don't see ferentz as willing or able to manage all those personalities as well as all the media and celebrity that comes along with those schools. Ferentz is the tortoise who would rather get "his guys" and then mold them into what he wants them to be
LOL! YOu have to be kidding!!! Then he came to OSU and got caught!!!
tksirius
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Yeah, tattoo gate was so huge it kept him out of the hall of fame. Oh wait, no it didn't. Seriously, if that crap happened today, Tressel would get a raise & extension.
hawkeyes87
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Which KF?
Pre-2010 KF? Maybe. Who knows?
Since then? Same shit every game, every year, and hope it works? Fired after at most 3 years.
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I think the Tressel comparison is fair. So would Les Miles at LSU or Lloyd Carr at Michigan. I wouldn't go as far to say that Ferentz would for sure win a national championship at one of those places, but he got Iowa one defensive stop away from the playoff. I'd feel safe saying that he'd have a team that would win 9-10 regular season games almost every year
tksirius
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Jim Tressel's total career winning percentage= 75.3%.
Won 4 out of 6 national championship games at the Div I-AA level.
Made 3 national championship games while at Ohio St, winning one of them.
7 B1G championships out of 10 seasons at Ohio St.
His overall winning percentage at Ohio St was 82.8%. His B1G winning percentage at Ohio St was 82.5%
Some of you people are batshit crazy!
ArvadaHawk
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kirk ferentz is a good coach. he is a good program manager. kirk ferentz' problem is that he views offense as a risk. if he embraced a more open offense, he'd be even more successful at Iowa. that is kirks cross to bear.
if kirk was at a blue blood and he kept the same philosophy on offense, he'd be a good coach with success relative to what is possible for that school. he wouldn't excel at a blue blood school.
kirk could still excel at iowa by embracing a more wide open offensive approach and stops viewing it as a risk.
if kirk was at a blue blood and he kept the same philosophy on offense, he'd be a good coach with success relative to what is possible for that school. he wouldn't excel at a blue blood school.
kirk could still excel at iowa by embracing a more wide open offensive approach and stops viewing it as a risk.
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So it's batshit crazy to think that Ferentz would win 9-10 regular season games annually at a blue blood program when he's winning pretty damn close to 7 wins per year at Iowa? Philisophically, they are pretty close to the same guy. The term "Tresselball" refers to winning games by playing strong defense, winning field position, and avoiding mistakes on offense. Tressel has said that the punt is the most important play in football. Kind of sounds familiar... Read this article and tell me that this writers impression of Tressel isn't the same as a lot of fans regarding Ferentz. It doesn't exactly take a ton of mental gymnastics to see the similarities these coaches share in their approaches to the game. It isn't crazy to believe that the difference between Tressel at Ohio State and Ferentz at Iowa is simply the personnel both coaches had at their disposal year after year.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/291729-tressel-ball-under-fire-bad-coaching-equals-bad-offense
Jim Tressel's total career winning percentage= 75.3%.
Won 4 out of 6 national championship games at the Div I-AA level.
Made 3 national championship games while at Ohio St, winning one of them.
7 B1G championships out of 10 seasons at Ohio St.
His overall winning percentage at Ohio St was 82.8%. His B1G winning percentage at Ohio St was 82.5%
Some of you people are batshit crazy!
So it's batshit crazy to think that Ferentz would win 9-10 regular season games annually at a blue blood program when he's winning pretty damn close to 7 wins per year at Iowa? Philisophically, they are pretty close to the same guy. The term "Tresselball" refers to winning games by playing strong defense, winning field position, and avoiding mistakes on offense. Tressel has said that the punt is the most important play in football. Kind of sounds familiar... Read this article and tell me that this writers impression of Tressel isn't the same as a lot of fans regarding Ferentz. It doesn't exactly take a ton of mental gymnastics to see the similarities these coaches share in their approaches to the game. It isn't crazy to believe that the difference between Tressel at Ohio State and Ferentz at Iowa is simply the personnel both coaches had at their disposal year after year.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/291729-tressel-ball-under-fire-bad-coaching-equals-bad-offense
