How much of the lack of offense is poor QB play...

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briney11

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Vs our WR's not being able to get open? It seems like MG (and other QB's in previous years) get ready to throw and see nothing. And that seems to be the norm over the past several years. Kinda similar to how or DB's don't seem to ever know how to turn around when the ball is coming. Just a thought.
 








Scott Leclair said:
No way this is solely on Mark.
Big time dropped balls and WR not being able to get open..
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Again. Plenty of replays showed receivers wide open while Gronsucksi just stood there. There were 3 or 4 dropped passes that were purely on receivers, the others were over thrown, under thrown, or behind them.
 




Imagine how bad it would be if we had to play Michigan and Ohio state every year instead of Rutgers and Michigan State.
 










Because what no one ever seems to acknowledge is that in Iowa Football, the ball is scripted to go to one guy only whether he is open or not. Why for the last hundred years do you see wide open guys that the ball is not thrown too. Do you know how pissed Kirk would be if you threw the ball to the non-script and it was intercepted or incomplete. Now does that sound asinine? But think about what I just said a second and what you've seen the last years. If there is no truth to it , then not only do the Qb's we recruit suck, but also blind!
 


NCHawker said:
Put it this way, the game plan reflects the confidence that they have in the QB
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Yes and no. I think more than anything else it reflects the conservative, ball control, low risk mindset of the Head Coach. Throw ONE long pass and you get a pass interference against their defense. Logic would say that they are flawed at that kind of coverage. So what would be the prudent thing to do? Yes throw it deep a couple of times AT LEAST UNTIL they show they can cover it.
 


We lost end of story. That's two years in a row. Our conference is among the wealthiest in college football and on an average the big ten has three times more money per football program than the Big Twelve.

This should not be happening.
 


We’re not going to be world beaters, (when are we?) but I think this team can still surprise. I think Gronowskis shoulder may still not be 100%. He definitely looked more settled which is good considering it was as hostile road environment. I think we can do decent but Oregon and PSU will be problems.
 


I just watched every every offensive play again. Gronowski isn't nearly as bad as it seems. He wasn't perfect, but he's a huge step up from what we've seen the last few years IMO. The play calling didn't do him any favors. There were some drops. Some might say that he frequently held the ball too long, but ISU's coverage was pretty good for most of the game.

He missed a couple open receivers at crucial moments. One was 2nd qtr 9:57 3rd & 5 and where he missed Large wide open after Large pushed the LB on his back. Another one was the 3rd down on the last drive. I couldn't tell who it was (looked like #22 on the back of the jersey), but he ran the under route, was way more open than Large, and probably would've had the first down if MG throws it to him. The offensive line was terrible on the last drive which didn't help. ISU got home without blitzing on 1st & 2nd down and with only 3 down linemen on the 2nd down which is unacceptable.

I'm not giving up on MG yet. The defense is better than I thought they'd be. The season isn't over and this loss is insignificant as far as the big picture goes. Unfortunately, I think ISU is the real deal this year and they were the better team today. I still think Iowa can have a great season though.
 
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It's less about the offensive schemes and talent and more about the predictable Kirk 'tendencies'.
We could have Tom Brady at QB and Andy Reid as OC, but when the defense knows the first down and second down plays will be a zone read run 98% of the time, it's not hard to defend.
How many times do we all see 5 OL taking on 7,8 or 9 players in the box and we still run right at them?
Defenses have no concern that we will deviate from this script - because we have not done so for decades.
 
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What I'm seeing is a QB that isn't completely comfortable with the scheme and his WRs quite yet.

When balls are at the feet or behind crossing receivers it's typically due to the QB "aiming" the ball and hesitating just for a split second, in which case the feet and arm get disconnected. It's akin to a golfer swinging with the arms and not releasing the lower body.

All of that comes with reps - lots of them...
 


#1DieHardHawk said:
What I'm seeing is a QB that isn't completely comfortable with the scheme and his WRs quite yet.

When balls are at the feet or behind crossing receivers it's typically due to the QB "aiming" the ball and hesitating just for a split second, in which case the feet and arm get disconnected. It's akin to a golfer swinging with the arms and not releasing the lower body.

All of that comes with reps - lots of them...
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So, let's put the sophomore in and hopefully he gets enough reps by the time he's a senior that we can witness a Hawkeye QB throw for over 100 yards.
 


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